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PL 07/11/1979 - 66570 City of fridley AGENDA PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, JULY 11, 1979 CALL TO ORDER: ROLL CAIL APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSION MIN4ITES: JUNE 20, 1979 1. PUBLIC HEARIN6: RE7ElNINf, RF�i7FST_ 7(lA #74_n�: � 7:30 P.M. PAGES 7_}2 13 - 18 wti� GUIYSIKUGIlUN: NBZOD2 LOtS 2 and 3, Block 1, Herwal ce Creek errace, from M-1 (light industrial areas) to CR-1 (general office and limited business), to allow the construction of two office buildings, 30 ft. 6y 128 feet, the same being 6330 and 6370 Central Avenue N.E. ' _ _ ... _. . 2. RECEFVE PI�RKS'& REEREATION CQMISSION MiNUTES: JUNE 13, 1979 GREEP� Motion on Page 5: Nortfitown Bridge Crossing Motion an Page 7: Adhere ta City Policy on fence betwen Madsen Park and Grave Evangelical Free Church , ... _ . _.._ ._. .... .. . _ _ _ _ 3. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAC �,UALITY COMh1ISSI0N MINUTES: JUNE 19 1979 BLUE Resignation letter from Gordon Wilson Motion on Page 4, Environmental Impact 5tatement on new Trunk Highway 1Q _. . _ 4. RECEIVE APPEACS COMMISSION MINUTES: JUNE 26, 1979 YELLOW 5. CONTINUED: DiSCUSSION ON CONVERSION OF RENTAL PROPERTY TO ir.mntTnun� : niaeicocurn � nnnore�rv 6. CONTINUED: COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN 7. CdNTINUED: PROPQSED CHANGES TO CHaPTER 205: ZONIN6 8. OTHER BUSINESS: ADJOURNMENT: SEPARATE SEPARATE �� CITY OF FRIDLEY PT,ANNING COhAffSSION MEETING - 7UNE 20, 1979 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Harris called the June 20, 1479, Planning Co�ission meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Barbara Hughes, LeRoy Oquist, Dick Harris, Virginia Schnabel, Peter Treuenfels� Jim Langenfeld Members Absent: None Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner Dean Sabby, Spring Lake Park Human Rights Commission Lee Carlson, Spring Lake Park Human Rights Commission APPROVAL OF JUNE 6, 1979, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION by Mr, Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to approve the June 6, 1979, Planning Coamission minuCes as written.. Ms. Hughes stated that on page 17, third paragraph fran bottom of page, . "reducing the amount of it" should be changed to "reducing the amount of waste". UPON A VOICE VOTE ALL VOTING AYE CHAIRPERSON HARBIS DECLARED THE MIN[TTES APPROVED AS CORRECTED, 1. RECEIVE JUNE 7, 1979, INMA23 RESOURCES COMMISSION MCNUTES: MOTION by Mr. Treuenfels, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to receive the June 7, 1979, Human Resources Commission minutes. Mr. Treuenfels stated that on page 8, last paragraph, "look into the availa- biliCy of voting machines for the handicapped" should be changed to "look into the votinR process for the handicapped". Mr. Langenfeld stated that on page 2, middle of third paragraph, the word, "Target" should be "Fridley". Ms. Hughes stated that on page 7, under Park Systems Plan, D 110-C, the Parks & Recreation Cocmnission was looking at that same section and shared some of the Human Resources Commission's concerns over decentralizing or centralizing the parks. She stated they would be taking that into consideration when they talk about the Comprehensive Development Plan. PLANNiNG COt�4ITSSION MEETING JUNE 20 1979 PAGE 2 Ms, Hughes stated that the Parks & Recreation Commission was also going to look at integrating the handicapped activities into the park program. Whether these should be special programs and very specific or integrated into the normal activities was something that needed to be worked on. UPON A VOICE VOT$ ALL VOTING AYE CHAIRPERSON HAR12I5 DECLARED THL MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 2, PROPOSAL FOR A'"CENTRAL CENTER FOR FAMILY RESOURCES" - Dean Sabby and Lee Carlson, Spring Lake Park Human Rights Commfssion: Mr. Sabby stated that he and Ms. Carlson were representing the Central Center for Family Resources. The Center came about as the result of a new Spring Lake Park Community Center. To build the community center, the City of Spring Lake Park needed federal monies and Jim Oberstar stated he would back this program if the City would provide some community resources rooms in the building. So, Spring Lake Park built the co�unity center and had four offices designated for a community service-type program. Following that, a task force was set up of representatives from the schools, churches, covmiunity members, law enforcement people, Mr. Sabby stated this was apptoximately one year ago and at that tfine, he was w3th the Spring Lake Park School DistricC in the counseling capacity in the Guidance Department. He represented the schools in this task force. The task force looked first at the needs of Spring Lake Park. They felt that was much too limiting and, because the school district encompasses part of Fridtey and part of Blaine, they decided it would be best to set up a program that would meet the needs of the whole co�unity, Spring Lake Park, Blaine,�d• Fridley, Mr. Sabby stated that the AdVisory Board gave input as to what was necessary for a community program. He stated that both Jim Sprungman and T.im Turnbull of the Fridley Potice Department were very helpful. Mr. Sabby stated that Blaine's statistics for 1978 indicated that nut of 783 arrests, over 500 were juveni�es. He thought Northtown had contributed to that as a lot of shoplifting occurred there. Larceny was also a big item. He stated that Spring Lake Park's statistics for 1478 indicated 170 juvenile arrests (approximately 20'/, of actual offenses occurring). Mr. Sabby stated that Jim Sprungman, Fridley Police Department, had provided statistics for the first quarter of 1979 in Fridley. These statistics indicated 919 total reported offenses, 113 juvenile arrests. Of the juvenile arrests, Z3 were handled within the PoZice Departmeat and 90 mere referred to Anoka County Services. Mr. Sabby stated he was showing these atatistics to the Planning Commission, because in the process of deciding on a program, they needed to know what was happening in the community. As a result vf that information, along with the input from the schools, churches, police departmenta, eta., they decided on the followfng program: s�' PLANNZNG CQMMISSIDN MEETING 3i3NE 20, 1979 PAGE 3 1. Conduct parenting programs. Mr. Sahby stated that since going to the Human Resourcea Corrmiission meeting on June 7, Onan Corporation had funded $1,500 to the Center for Jean Clark's parenting program, "Self-Esteem - A Family Affair" This will be one program which will start in August or early September, Ms. Carlson stated that one other reason they selected Ms. Clark's program was because a portion of that program trains Eacilitators that remain in the community. 2. Conduct parent discussion groups for parents of children in K- 3. 3 4 Mr. Sabby stated that Fridley was very fortunate Co have an elementary counselor, Mr. Tony Krall. Mr. Kra11 was a big influence in getting this program going, and Mr. Krall was very eager to share this information with them. This program would be offered in School District 16. Mr. Sabby stated that the main puxpose of their program was preventative--getting to the parents and tte families when they can still have an impact be£ore the children get into tzouble. Conduct discussion groups for parents of ch:ldren in upper elementary grades. Mr. Sabby stated that the sCage before adolescence is very frustrating for parents. This program would be available to Blaine, Spring Lake Park, and Fridley. Family counseling 5. GED (Guidance Equivalency Degree) Training Center 6. Coordinate with oeher social service agencies and bring resource people into the community. A. Probation officer B. Battered women's group (Mr. Sabby stated that the battered women's group was already in one of the offices and they operate a 24-hour telephone hotline.) C. Social worker D. Drug counselor 7. Determine additional needs of com�unity through needs assessment. Mr. Sabby stated that the parenting programs and the family counseling were the two Chings they were most interested in providing in the prevention azea, w��-i PLANNING COMMISSIpN MEETING JUNE 20 1979 PAGE 4 Mr. Sabby stated that it was difficult in get LEAA funding (which �s law enforcement funding at the state level), because theq like Eacts and atatistics. So, the first step is to get the coIInnunity's support. If the commvnity is behind the program, the state is more liable to come up with some matching funds for the program. Mr. Sahby stated that is why they are unique and why they are trying to get the local support first before even seeking LEM funding. Mr, Sabby stated that most of Fridley's referrals go to Don Wegscheider, Director o£ Human Services at North Suhurban Family Services Centex. Mr. Sabby stated he worked closely with Mr. Wegscheider because they wanted to make sure there were not being redundant. Mr. Wegscheider was very supportive and sees the Center as being able to refer a1so, because North Suburban is more in the treatment area. Ms. Schnabel asked about what type of financing the Center could get from Anoka County. Ms. Carlson stated they were working with the County. Another possibility was mental health grants and aids-type funding. They were researching all possibilities at the County level: The last state legislature had appropriated a large increase into the whole health area, but the County was not totaLly sure about all the criteria for how the money is to be spent and the actual breakdown. She stated they would be working closely with the County as these decisions are made. Mr. Sabby stated he wanted the Commission to understand that they were not asking for long term funding for this Center. They wanted local funding to get the program o£f the ground, because they feel it will be very successful. Mr. Langenfeld asked what the Center's goal was as far as dollars? Mr. Sabby scated that, initially, they set $25,000 for the first year to operate on a half-time basis. Ms. Carlsan stated that their budgeting has to reflect both long range goals and the actual money 3n hand. They feel they are now in a safe area in being able to function well in the first year. Howevex, they would like more money to be able to fund another half-time covnselor (in addition to Mr. Sabby) for at least this year. She stated Eor state monies, the grant has to be written the beginning of July,_a proposal has to be in by the end of September, and funds are allocated as of January 1, 1980. So, within their fiscal year, Ju1}r 1- June 30, 1980, there is the possibility of another influx on'that level. They wanted to be totally open as to where they can reasonably antici- pate funding and where they are going to attempt to get funding. In terms of program development, some of i[ will be written in the form of grants to specific corporations for specific programs. Their plan is to build a very solid base of support in the Iocal community. PI.ANNING CONA2ISSION MEETING JUNE 20 1979 PAGE 5 Mr. Harris stated he had been on the Planning Commission for seven years, and he felt he had heard all this before. He stated that a couple of years ago, SACA (Southern Anoka County Assistance) had presented a similar proposal. The City had funded some money to that organizaCion and now what had happened to it? Mr. Treuenfels stated that he understood that SACA is still in existence and provides a referral service which evaluates cases that come in and refers them to appropriate agencies, He felt they did c wm�endable work. He did noC feel there would be an overlapping of services between SACA and the Central CenCer for Family Resources. Ms. Hughes concurred with Mr. Treuenfels. She knew people involved in SACA and did not see this as a duplication of serv3ces. Mr. Langen£eld asked if, in their needs assessment, they had tried to analyze how they might affect other similar projects or how other projects might af£ect them? Ms. Carlson stated they had, that they had contacted all area services in comparing and researching their programs and how these other programs related to them as far as any overlapping. Ms. Hughes stated the real problem with Chis kind of program was going to be in its evaluation. Prevention was not going to show up for sometimes 13 years after a child was born. Ms. Carlson stated it almost required a longitudinal study. They had talked about the possibility of writing a research grant to have someone do that type of study. Ms. Hughes stated that what they axe likely to see came out of this is Che output kind of ineasures and not the real outcome of the program, which will not show up for a period of time. It seemed to her Chat if this kind of program can be of any use at all, the value in jusC human resources was going to be so great and worth the gamble and certainly worth a few thousand dollars. Mr. Soardman stated he would like to see organizations like this gather some statistics that can be used for the planning process. He thought one of the key elements in a program like this was not only helping people, but looking for daYa and stat3stics that could be used for planning. Mr. Harris asked how they would be interacting with the Anoka County Welfare B oard? Mr. Sabby stated they had two people on their Advisory Board who would represent that area as far as interacCion. Ms. Schnabel staCed she felt thiS was [he kind of program that Anoka County should be involved in. If the County felt it was a badly needed program� then the County should be coming up with some dollars. PI,ANNING CU�IISSION MEETING JUNE 20 1979 PAGE 6 Mr. Langenfeld stated he felt if this program could prevent fifteen young- sters from entering the prison system, in tax dollars, they would certainly save the taxpayers money. Ms. Carlson stated that if they can prevent a few cases of child abuse, it would certainly be well worth it in human terms. Mr. Treuenfels stated that the Human itesources Commission was impressed with this proposal, but had some questions similar to those voiced by the Planning Coaanission members. He referred to page S of the Human Resources Commission minutes. The Human Reaources Commission felt they could be of service by getting some background information regarding the availabilfty of services in this area. They would present thf.s information to the Planning Co�ission. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Sabby and Ms. Carlson how much money they would be requesting from the City of Fridley? Mr. Sabby stated that the City of BLaine had contributed $5,000; the Spring Lake Park Lions Club had contributed $5,000; the Spring Lake Park VFW had contributed $6,000; and Onan had contributed $1,500 for the parenting program. They would Like to request $5,000 from the City of Fridley. Mr. Harris stated he would like the Planning Commissiott to table this item until the Human Resources Commission could come back with the background information and until Staff could research on where the City was budget- wise, so that all the information would be ready to go on to City Council: Mr, Sabby stated that sounded very fair to them. Mr. Sabby and Ms. Carlson stated that if there were any questions in the meantime, they could be reached mornings at 780-3036. (Lee Carlson's home phone: 786-3884. Dean Sabby's home phone: 757-5248) They also extended an invitation for the Planning Co�nission members to stop by and see their facility. Mr. Boardman stated he felt very encouraged by this program. He thought a lot of things were happening with the pressures of today, social pressures, and different needs within the community. He felt it was the City's responsibility, as well as the County's and everybody's responsibility to txy to find out what those pressures are and how to deal with those kinds of pressures. With this preVentative-type of program, they may be able to get some facts and figures and do something about the pressures that might be causing some of the problems in this society. He felt it was very important that this program be followed through. No matter what the recommenda- tion is on this proposal, he felt there should be a strong recommendation that some people sit down at aLl levels aad try to work out some coordination, at least within Anoka County, as to what is going on. Ms. Hughes sta2ed she was very encouraged about this kittd of program and in this area. She knew people who would go 4ar distances for this kind of counseling. She had known Ms. Carlson for many years and had confidence in everything she was involved in. She stated she knew some of the members on the Advisory Board and was very encouraged by that. PLAPTNING COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 20 1979 PAGE 7 BY Y n Mr. Harris thanked Ms. Carlson and Mr. Sabby for their presentation. 3. RECEIVE JUNE 12, 1979, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION by Ma. Schnabel, seconded by Ms. Hughes, to receive Che June 12, 1979, Appeals Cov�ission minutes. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Harris declared the motion carried unanimously. 4. CONTIN[7ED: COMPREHENSTVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN Mr. Boardman staCed the Planning Department was presently in the process of reorganizing Che document to make it a more palatable document to understand. A general strategy for laying out the enCire document with an overall compre- hensive plan map will be at the beginning of the document instead of the introduction. Then each section will have a strategy lay-out, going into goals, objectives, and policy statements. Mr. Boardman stated that, at this point, they had not yet decided what to do wi�h the inventory. It had been suggested at the Environmental Quality Co�ission meeCing that the inventory be put in a separate document. Mr. Boardman sCated they hoped to have the revised document completed and ready for typing by the end of 3une. , MOTION by 2ir. Langenfeld, seconded by Ms. Schnabel, to continue discussion on the Comprehensive Development Plan until the revised document is completed. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, Chairperson Harris declared the motion carried unanimously. Chairperson Harris declared a 15-minute recess at 9:30 p.m. Chairperson Harris reconvened the meeting at 9:45 p.m. 5. CONTINUED: PItOPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 205. ZONING: Page 18 - 205.047 Autosobile Parking Mr. Boardman stated that Item E. Stall Size should probably be changed to read: "All parking stalls shall iollow standards as set up under a docwnent 'Aow to Plan Parking Areas` that we use to define those standards. Mr. Boardman stated the same Ching would be true of Item F. Driveway RequiremenCS. PT,ANNING C@�SISSION MEETING JUNB 20, 1979 PAGE 8 Page 19 - Mr. Boardman stated that again, on this page, the comment from the Appeals Coucnission was that r.his area shoukibe "except for R1 and R2". . G- l. Change "25 feet" to "20 feet" I. Truck Berths, �2: Loading and unloading facilities are to be located in the rear yard; or side yard if properly screened by a solid 6-foot fence, substantial construction or other screening approved by the Zoning Administrator," Mr. Harris asked Mr. Boatdman iE he thought a 6-foot high solid screen fence was going to do much good in these particular situations? Mr. Boardman stated they had not much luck as £ar as screening. They preferred to get the loading and unloading facilities in the rear yard, but they could not always get them in the rear yard. So, they tried to screen as closely as possible. He thought they had been doing that with landscaping rather than a fence. Mr. Harris stated that, from his experience, he felt those 6-foot solid screen fences seem to be junk collectors. Mr. Boardman suggested they reword �k2 to read; "Loading and unloading facilities are to be located in the rear yard or side yard if properly screened." Mr. Boardman sta[ed the Commission might want to talk about what constitutes a"2oading and unloading facility". Should they write something like "loading and unloading dock facilities should be located in the rear yard?" Mr. Harris stated that it was not always possible to have them located in the rear yard. When you are talking about a loading facility, you are talking about a 1ot more than a truck berth. Mr. Boardman stated that maybe in �k2, they should talk about "outside loading and unloading docks must be in the rear yard", because they were concemed mainly about docks, and leave �3 as it is. Mr. Iiarris agreed with that. Page 20 - 205.048 Performance Standards 1- B. Eliminate the word "morals" in the fourth line, 1- A, "All materials and equipment shall,be kept in a building or shall be fully screened, so as not to be visible from any public right-of-way or adjoining property." PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 20 1979 PAGE 9 Mr. Harris stated he had problems with that statement. What was the definition of "all materials and equipment"? Did this mean a person had to screen his boat sitting along side his house, or a snowmobile, or recreational vehicles, trailers, stacked firewood,etc.? Mr. Boardman stated there were a lot of problems with that, and he did not really know how they could control those problems. Mr. Harris stated he also had problems with, "fully screened, so as not to be visible from any public right-of-way or adjoining property". He felt iC depends on the situation and location. For example, it was impossible for Carter-Day to screen their large equipment. It did not m ake sense to have a 6-foot high fence and try to screen a 15-foot trailer. It gets very expensive to store that kind of equipment. Mr. Boardman stated that Mr. Harris had asked Che question of what constitutes "all materials and equipment". If a resident wants to store material or has objectionable material, the resident should be required to either move that material or have it screened. Right now they can only go in on a public nuisance violation and tag the violator. Mr. Harris stated there was another problem not yet discussed and that. was Che amount of vandalism in Fridley. It was tremendous. The solid screened areas are beautiful--you can't see a thing, including the police'. He said it bothered him that the City is always telling the business, homeowner, and property owner to do this and this and this. Everytime, we turn around and try to protect ourselves, the City seems to come up with another ordinance or anoCher idea such as solid screened fencing and nice shrubbery. The City wants screening and the police sap they can't see in where all the stuff is, so someone is going to have to make up his mind. Ms. Hughes stated she agreed with Mr. Harris. There were economic impacts on this, ior example, requiring garages and off-street parking that encourages people to drive rather than use mass transit and,some other things she had problems with in a zoning ordinance. Mr. Oquist stated that on one hand, it is costly and has some affect on vandalism. On the other hand, if you don't screen somehow, particularly in residential areas, there is going to be all kinds of debris for people to look at. Ms. Schnabel stated that lack of screening can also sometimes be a public nuisance. Mr. Harris stated he agreed. Where residential areas were involved, he was all for preserving the neighborhood, but thaC did not seem to be happening. .�� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 20 1979 PAGE 10 Ms. Schnabel stated she goes back to the fact that if there was not an ordinance like this, the City would not have any authority to require screening for the things that really needed screening. There are certain visual pollution things she thought ought to be screened, and there were many examples in Fridley. Mr. Boardman stated he thought you could screen the majority of clutter from the visual line with a 6-foot high fence. The question was; What do you want to screen or what can you require to be screened without requiring a11 outside storage to be screened? Mr. Harris stated that maybe the screening situation should be looked at on a zoning basis as to what can be required in a commercial zone, M1 zone, and M2 zone. Mr. Boardman stated the problem with that is there is so mucfi scattered zoning throughout the ent3re city. Ms. Schnabel suggested that Mr. Harris come up with some wording that would hetCer state what he would like to see in that portion of the zotting ordinance and bring it back to the Planning Commission. Mr. Harris agreed and stated that maybe he and Mr. Boardman could sit down and try to work something out. MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels, to continue discussion on Proposed Changes to Chapter 205. Zoning, Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Harris declared the motion carried unanimously. 6. OTHER BUSINESS: A. Narthtown Corridor River Crossing Ms, Hughes stated she would like to alert the Commission about this item. The Parks & Recreation Commission was awaxe of it and were going to follow up on it. She stated that MnDOT, Metropolitan Council, Anoka County, Hennepin County, and some neighboring communities have been involved in the sCudy of the Northtown Corridor and the crossing of the Mississippi River. This study was entitled, "First Level Evaluation of A2ternatives of Thoroughfare 610" dated February 1979 and prepared by Bather, Ringrose, & Wolsfeld (BRW). Ms. Hughes stated the consuttant had an informal hearing in Coon Rapids on June 11. One of the alternative crossings of the river was going across at 85th Ave. in Fridley, the southern route. This crossing would come very close to North Park. Ms. Aughes stated that the Parks & Recreation Commission would like to ask the City to look into this situation in much greater detail and to find out what is actually happening. They were really asking the City to join in the study, if that was still possible. 0. 197 Mr. Langenfeld stated he thought it was stxange thaC the City did not know about the meeting until the very day it took place. Fridleyhhadsmadedtheadecisionanotatoejoin in onathis�particularhreview. Mr. Langenfeld stated that the Environmental Quality Commission talked about this aC their meeting on June 19, and they came to the conclusion that Staff would evaluate the EIS and all the on-caming procedures and inform the EnvironmenCal Quality Co�miission accordingly, tather than Che EQC making decisions on piecemeal information. Mr. Boardman stated that from what he understood, there were actually three alternatives: a northerly crossing, a southerly crossing, or no crossing. None of these alternatives actually came within the City of Fridley's land per se, The southerly crossing goes north of Breckenridge Island and connects either into the new realigned Highway 10 or the old Highway 10 norCh of the Northtown area, The concerns the Gity may have is what the environmental impacts oandhan EISthaslnotryetlbeenldoneeonnit. Fridley as far as noise pollution, Mr. Boardman stated that he and Mr. Qureshi were involved in the Management Task Force in the NorthCown Corridor Study in 1974-75. They had opted out of Che continuing Task Force, primarily because all the access points and all of the land acquisition was taking place in Coon Rapids, Blaine, and conanun3ties Co the west. The Task Force would have involved a city expendiCure of cost for hiring the consultant. They felt at that point in time that the City did not really need to get invtoVbe affectedcbyal hiring of the cansultant when Fridley was not going any acquisition of City property. That decision was made because the corridor area was going to go north of Friandykee�atclose watchdon�theW is just keep very close tabs on ehe thing P EIS. Mr. Boardman stated there was also a concern expressed by the Environmental Quality Cammission about the new alignment of Highway 10 just north of the old Highway 10. That is in the process of an EIS. Within the EIS, the Department of Natural Resources was taiking about the disruption of weClands and how it is going to affect the two creeks off of which the wetlands feed. One of these creeks is Spring Brook Creek. So, the City is very concerned about that EIS. Mr. Langenfeld staCed he gets rather upset with the Department of Natural Resources becavse of the conflict with them over the wetlands in the North Innsbruck area versus laws, etc. He really felt that the Planning Commission should think about a statement made at the last Environmental Quality Commission that, in the event the City did not get involved in preliminary hearings, they could lose scope and a few other essential grips on what is taking place. He really felt the City should become involved almost yesterday. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 20 1979 PAGE 12 Mr. Boardman stated he felt it was very difficult at this time for the City to get into the Management Task Force because of the expenditure of monies and that type of thing. That was the purpose of the Management Task Force, He thought the main involvement should and will come in evaluating some of the things that cane up. Ms. Hughes stated she just wanted the Planning Commiss3on to be aware oE this problem and to be ready to follow whatever information comes from Staff.. Mr. Harris stated that the Planning Con�ission had the infomiation requested from Staff on the Nitschke request for a three-unit townhouse development. The City Council has asked the Planning Coamiission to examine that and give them a new set of proposals for a possible ordinanee change and how to handle any further requests of that kind. Mr. Boardman stated he thought the City Council had tabled the Nitschke request and sent it back to the Planning Cownission for further study on all types of issues like this. He stated he would probably want to sit down with the city attorneys to see what can and cannot be legally done as to restricting property use. Mr. Harris stated this whole subject should again be put on the Planning Commission agenda. AATOTJRNMENT: MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld, seconded by Mr. Treuenfels to adjourn the meeting. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Aarris declared the June 20, 1979, Planning Commission meeting adjourned at 11:2� p.m. Respectfully submitted, Lyn Saba Recording Secretary 13 PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION Notice is hereby given that there will be a Public Hearing of the Planning Commission of the City of Fridley in the City Hai] at 6431 University Avenue Northeast on Wednesday, July 11, 1979 in the Counci7 Chamber at 7:30 P.M. for the purpose of: Consideration of a rezoning request, ZOA #79-05, by R. C. Hitt Construction> to rezone Lots 2 and 3, Blnck l, Herwal Rice Creek Terrace, from M-1, (light industrial areas) ta CR-1, (general office end limited business), to a11ow the constructTOn of two office buildings, all lying in the South Half of Section 13, T-30, R-24, City of Fridley, County of Anoka, Minnesota. 6enerally located at 6330 and 6370 Central Avenue N.E. Any and all persons desiring to be heard shall be given an opportunity at the above stated time and place. RiCHARD H. HARRIS CHAIRMAN PLANNING COMMISSION Publish: June 27, 1979 3uly 4, 1979 w� CITY OF FRIDLEY MINNESOTA j PLANNING AND ZONING FORM NUMQER %/ � �I%-OS � APPLICANT'S SIGNATURE C W 1 T �. O h 5 T' Addre'ss Gi/ � � � yL �f!/7 Telephone Number ���� � (� D � PROPERTY OWNER'S STGNAT E Address 14 TYPE OF REQUEST � Rezoning . `" �.33- S'fi� B - -- —� ��ii Y Telephone Number �.�� �j Fee Street Location of Property�nT��L ��(/� , � c� ��- �v Legal Qescription of Property —lors 2-°� 3 / m Bresent Zoning Classificatio�T �� Existing Use of Property� � I 5pecial Use Permit Approval of Premin- inary $ Final Plat Streets or Alley Vacations Other . (r7 �' (ol � ) Receipt No `eu.�,�L ?�c�. G2.�e � ,-,_.,„,,,,. Acreage of Property �o7.�X a�i %� Describe briefly the proposed zoning c2assification :���� or type of use and improvement proposed b� 5T�'GJGr"i tJ Il� D� / � �S/—r ��l 8 ,��,�ic t/�ti�i a%.v�c, _ r 30� X' /%�3 �( Li.F �/� � i Has the present applicant previously sought to rezone, plat, obtain a lot spli r variance or special use permit on the subject site or part of it? yes no. What was requested and when? The undersigned understands that: (a) a list of all residents and owners of property within 300 feet (350 feet for rexoning) must be attached to this application. (b} This'application must be signed by all owners of the property, or an explanation gi�en why this is not the case. (c) Responsibility for any defect in the proceedings resulting from the £ailure to list the names and addresses of all residents and property owners of proparty in question, belongs to the undersigned. A sketch of proposed property and structure must be drawn and attached, showing the following: 1. North Direction, 2. Location of proposed siructure on the lot. 3. Dimensions of property, proposed stracture, and front and side setbacks. 4. Street Names, S. Location'and use of adjacent existing buildings (within 300 feet). The undersigned hereby declares that all the facts and representations stated application are true and correct. DATE� f X/�SIGNATURE_�� � �G,/� (A�PLICANT) qate Filed Date of Hearing Planning Commission Approved City Council Approved (dates) Uenied (dates) Denied in tl�is �G �'�" MAT�ING I.IST ZQpj �79,.05, R,C, ti�`tt ConstractTon Rezone fcom M-1,to CR-1> Lots 2a3t Block 1, Nerwal', R��ce Creek Terrace 6330 and 6370 Central Avenue 4t��lbur H, Harr�ts 640Q Ceqtrdl Avenue N,E. fr�`.d1ey, Mn 55432 R. C. W'itt Construction 70 4test County Road C St. Pau1, Mn 55112 Donald Erickson 400 Redwo4d I;ane New Bri'ghton> Mn 55112 Fortune Investments, Inc G. W�lqui.st 4230 Central Avenue N,E. Minneapol��s, Mn 55421 Ziebart of T1innesota, Inc. 630Q Central Avenue N,E. FPi.dley, Mn 55432 Mr. $ Mrs. Jerome Wranescfietz 6355 Piel^ce Street N. E. 'Fridley; Mn 55432 Mr, & Mrs. Duane Guse 6345 Plerce Street N.E. �rldley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Vernon Fuechtmann 5872 Wasfii;ngton Street N,E. Fri:dley, Mn 55432 Mt^. & Mrs. Playne Mudgett 6401 P�'erce Street N.E, Frldley, Mn 55432 Mr, & Mrs. Henry MdY'i.ner 6373 Pi:erce Street N,E. Fr?dley, Mn 55432 PTanning Commission 6/26/79 City Council � Mr. & Mrs, Josepfi Beck 6412 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Alfred Kells 6400 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Douglas Johnson 6388 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Gary Fischer 6378 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Lawrence J. Nelson 6366 pierce 5treet N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs, Mitchell Gwiazdon 6350 P3erce Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Ms. Beatrice Laubach 6336 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs, Henry peterson 6312 Pierce Street N.E, Fridley, Mn 55432 Ronald W. Sherman 16938 Weaver Lake Drive Osseo, Mn 55369 �•. Wayne Larson 1216 Banfiill Circle Brooklyn Park, Mn 55444 Conrad Vi.11ella c/o Omega Management Suite 430 Sroakdale Towers 2810 County Road 1� Brooklyn Center, Mn 55430 15 Page 2 ZOA #79-05 Mr. & Mrs. Duane Levandowski 6367 Pierce Street N.E. Frid7ey, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. George DeMarais 6411 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Stanley Dubanoski 6423 Pierce Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Sandee's Cafe c/o William F. Weiss 6490 Central Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 William F. 4leiss 1282 Mississippi Street N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 HUD 271-000006-003 H.P. 6400 France Aveque South Minneapolis, Mn 55435 Paul H. Parris 6391 Central Rvenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. teroy Tovsen 1356 64th Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. David Houwman 1340 64th Avenue N.E. fridley, Ptn 55432 V.F.W. Post 363 1040 03borne Road N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 First 6uaranty Corporation (7-11) 1315 Rice Creek Road Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. Bob Calderon 6401 Central Avenue N.E. Fridley, Mn 55432 Mr. & Mrs. John Rau 1351 64th Avenue N.E. 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Upon a voice voCe, a11 voting aye, Chairperson Hugi.es declared the motion ca?-ried unanic�ously. APPROV-�L OF AGENDA: A1s. Hughes stated that a"Request from Grace Evangelical Free Church" should be added to the agenda under °ATew Business" as Item E. Ms. Hughes stated she wauld like to revise the agenda to have Mr. Boardman`s report on Che "Comprel�ensive Deve2opment Plan" as the first item on the a;enda. I. CdMPR�IIENSIVE DEVELOL'MEN'C PLAN: Mr. Boardman stated that, if Che Commission was not aware of it, Ray Leek was no longer working for the City, and Mr. Leek had heen the sole persoa working on the Comprehensive Development P1an. That was 3-4 weeks ago, and since that time, Mr. Boar.dman stated he had not been able to work on L-he Plan. Mr. Michael Franzen in the Planning Department was now worlcing with him on the Plan, and they were starting to lay ie out again and make modifications. Mr. Boardman stated a new person would be starting next week as Associate Planner, and this person would be in charge of comprehensive planning and various other projects, as well as being Che staff person to the Environmental Quality Commission. His involvement with the Plan would probably be limited at this stage, and he would primarily be used as a review person. PAIZKS & RECI;8ATION COPg1ISSI0N ML'FTINGz.7UNE 13, 1979 - PAGE 2 Mr. Boardman stated he hoped to get back to the Commission early in July with the revised Comprehensive Development Plan so they could get on to the Planning Commission Uy the end of July. Ms. Hughes reported to the Commission thae the Planning Commission had been having some discussions on the PLan, but were really concerned nbout trying to follow its format. After an hour of discussion at one of their neetings, the Planning Cormiission decided to refer the Plan back to the Planning Depart- ment for the Planning Department to come'back with something that was more readable, Ms. Hughes stated she would like the Commission to call a special meeting the first part of July to revie�� the Plan and make recommendatians before it went on to Planning Commission. II. DIRECTOR'S REPORT: A. Status of Grants: Metropolitan Council/LCNII2 Mr. Boudr.eau stated he �aanted to bring the Commission up to dat� on the status o� grants they have working izow. Metropolitan Council had allocated $365,000 for a visitors center plus improved parking 1ot, landscaping, and trail improvement at SpringUrook Nature Center. City Council had approved with a 4- 1 vote the agreement with Metro�olitan Council on how this is going to be implemented. They ha•�e the City Couacil's approval on retair,ing the services of an architectural firm, Desipn Consortium, Inc. A meeting is scheduled with the architects on June 14 with Jerrold "noardman, Siah $t. Clair., Czty Naturalist, and himself to give the architects some Choughts and concerns from a naturalist's point of view, prograurtning-wise, and so they can come up with some basic design for Che faciiities of o,.hat the City would like to see. City Staff was looking at the following objectives; 1. Location on the land 2. Usable inside space within a building that meets some of the minimum requirements of the naturalist program as they see it. 3. Building design that will be very functiottal, yet as vandal- proof as possible. 4. Some type of earth-sheltered building to try to conserve energy where possible and still fit into the environment. Mr. Boudreau stated that when the architects came up with a preliminary design or concept, they would eitl�er come back through the Commission/City Council process, or have another joint meeting with the Springbrook Nature Foundation, Parks cC Recreation Commission, and the City Council to "tear apart" the concept, make constructive suggestions, and then go back to the architects for reworking. The time £rame was such that they hoped to break ground yet this year with the ixope of completion early next year. Ms. Hughes asked whg the Parks & Recreation Commission was not being involved in the concept of the design at Chis stage? And what kind of input did the Springbrook Nature I'oundation Uave? PnRRS d RECREnTION COMMISSION MEETING, JU[Vr: 13, 1979 - PAGE 3 Mr. Boudreau stated that when tl�ey were l'a7lcing about a functional facility to operate a natuialist p�'ogram, L-hey hoped their naturalist', Mr, St. Clair, who wi11 probably be ehe biggest user of i:hat facility, could give that inpul. As liaison person with the SpringUroolc NaCure Foundatiou, Mr. St, Clair had gotten input from the Pcundation on what they would like to see in this faciliCy, Mr. Kondrick stateci that it was his feeling that the Commission could noe provide any input at L•his point until they got some professional ideas and could then ].00k for some flaws in the preliminary design, He did not feel he was equipped to contribuCe anything at this point. Mr. Young stated he agreed wiet� Mr. Kondrick. Mr. Young stated that in regard to the grant from the Metropolitan Council, he would like to lmow what stipulations were made as to the use of that new facility at Springbrook Nature Center. AC the meeting in May when the Cammission met with Design Consortium, Inc „ Springbrook Nature Foundation, and the City Council, Councilman Bob BarnetCe made it very clear in his opposztion, even five years after the referendum in the City of Fridley, that he would still like the nature ceneer to become a memicipal golf course. i�ir. I'oung stated that was his coacern and caas there any stipulaticn by Metropolitar. Council that the building, once it wac built, must- be used for nature ineer- pretive services? Mr. Boudreau stated that it was MekropoliCan Council's stipulation that the buiZding must L-e used for tl-�z a�anner in whi.ch it cvas intended for ZOyears. Mr. Soudreau stated that the other grane was a LAT,'COId grant for local parks. This grant they put in for the purchase of Che property referred to as the Sears Property, but which is now referred to as the Hob Schroer Property. They wexe lookir.g at a yoint venture �aith Anoka County in acquiring the soiith 4Q-42 acres (from the power lines, across the middle of the property south to the south property line). Mr. Boudreau stated their main purpose in this LAWCOTd grant is to develop a high use, athletic area. Also in the planning, they put in a proposed area for a recreation center building. LAWCON has acted and it.has gone through LCNIIt. The latest he has hearci is that Fridley will soon be granted $200,000 to purchase Yhe City's portion of that property which is 17-ZD acres. The purchase of that property should be completed in Che near future with Mr. Scliroer. ShorCly �hereafter, Anoka County should have Che remainder ot the monies from Metropolitan Council to purchase the rest of the acreage. Tlie thought is to have a total development caith L-he County and their bikeway/walkway traiZ systems route from Lino Lakes down along Rice Creek, Chrough Ramsey, through the Locke Park property, through the Bob Schroer ProperCy, down and connecting to East River Iioad. The City's plan is to develop a complex of six softball diamonds with Che intent of removing the high use in Che residential area of Commons Park, making that area more c+f a central neighUorhood park. Mr, Boudreau stated they would be putting in another LAWCON grant next year for another $200,000 for the development of an outdoor faciliCy. 1'ARKS & P.]iCRFiATION COMNfISSION MEETIIdG ,TUNli 13, 1979 - PAGE 4 (Ms. Seeger arrived at 7:55 p.m.) Ms. Seeger stated that she attended a meeting on Monday nighh which involved a proposal that the Northtown Corridor crossing swing down and cross on 85th. To her knowledge, the City of Fridley had chosen not to be included in this study because (from what information she had gathered) tney thought the crossing was going to be further north. Now, a group of consultants that were hired have come up with four allernatives, one. of which is crossing way down and very close to Fridley. Tl�is does concezn Fridley residents in l;hat one of Fridley's p,srks is very close. Ms. Seeger stated that at the meeting on Monday night, one of the things the consultants said was they were told first and foremost that parks were of the utmost importance and, if at a21 possible, they were to shy away fran crossing through parks. This was one of the reasons for the realignment of '.'he crossiag--because of the Hennepin County parks. Now, they were coming sc�: to rridley's parks, and she was a little unhappy that the City chose not to Le included in the study. Ms. Seeger stated that as a Parks & Aecreation Cou¢nissioner, she was alarmed that Fxidley was less important than the Hennepin County Park Reserve. She - stated that one suggestion brought up at the meeting was to cross under the river. Considering the cost of the parks and property and the homes this crossing would be taking, this suggestion was not so ridiculous. Ns, Seeger stated sUe felt the Commission could make some official statemeat to go into the consult-ants' record tliat Fridley did have a large investment in North Park and should reiterate that Fridley's parks are very important and that the impact is for a muct: longer distar,ce th �t what the consultants are saying--300 feet'. '��. ?�_��hes stated she thoaght the Commission certainly should recognize ;�:.m and officially aslc for more informaCion. Ms. Seeger stated that several cities, Hennepin CounCy, Anoka County, and MnDOT, and Metropolitan Council hired'this consult-anE and no�a this consultant has come in with their. input. She feZt the Commission should ask for one of those reports. She would aiso like the Commission to make a statement to the consultants that the Commission does nok think the south corridor is environmentally safe. Sfie would also recommend that the City get involved in that study. MOTION by Betty Mech that the Parks & Recreation Commission send a letter directly to the consultants shating that the Commission is cottcerned with the Northtown bridge crossing and its impact on Fridley's parks. Seconded by Jan Seeger. Mr, Boudreau stated he felt just making City Council aware oi- this and that the Commission has some very strong concerns as a park advisory c anmission in that tfie City should make all attempts to get involved directly, wherever possible at the earliest possible time, could be a recommendation that could come from this Commission. Iie could try to get it on the.July 18th City Council agenda, PhRKS & RECREA'CIDN CONil�IISSION I�IEETING JTJN� 13 1979 - PAGE 5 Mr. Kondrick agreed caith Mr. Boudreau, Ms. Hughes sl'ated it sounded lilce the concensus of the Cotmnission was that they recommend to Plamiing Commission and City Council that they investigate and be very concerned abaut the choices ot the Northtown Corridor routing because of the possible impact on Fridley's parks and na�ure resource areas. Ms. Mech withdrew her motion and Ms. Seeger withdrew her second, THE ON TIIE CITY OF rRIDLEY' S B. Genexal Program ReporC Oi�DED BY DICY. YOtib?G, TO RECOr�ND TO PLANVING THAT TAEY IT:VESTIGATE IMMLD.T.aTEI.Y AND BE VERY bRIDGE CROSSING �Y . Ms. Boudreau handed out to the Commissioners a"1978 Evaluatiou" of its programs. He stated that, in brief, the Economic Equivalence In�lex is a system the�* have used to try and tie a dol:ar amount to the recreational activities they have offered. Ou the second page, A1r. Kizlc has er.plai.ned we11 �ahaC the terms mean and how they were arrived at. Contained within the bookl.eC is a list of all the activities they have oifered, the number of participants, and the total numUer of 17ours of participatirn, and a comparzson between 1977 and 1978. Mr. Boudreau stated this was for infor.�ational putpeses so that �he Commission could see what they were doing in-house to evaluate programs for the citizens' beneFiC and.welfare, and also to be used as a guide for program clianging, upgrading, etc. Mr. Boudreau stated lhat with this y�arly report, he wanted to inform the Commission that the Park, Recreation and Natural Resources Deparement has filed for a gold medal award with the Sports Foundation, Inc. They were sponsored by Dave's SporC Shop. This is an award for excellence in the £ield of parks and recreation management. By July 17th, they will lmow whether or not L-hey are one of the five finalists.in their populal-ion category. If so, they iaill have Co submit additional materials to be judged by a connnittee. In OctoUer, if they are chosen, they wi11 be presented with a large plaque. He stated he hoped to get some attention nationally and hoped Chat some of their programs will be recognized for whaC they are. III. NEId BUSINESS: A. HociceyJGeneral Skating Areas 1479-1980 Mr. Boudreau stated that the Commissioners had a copy of the "Suggested Ice Areas/Hockey Rink LocaCions° for 1979-80. He had met with Wayne Brandt, President of the l�ockey Association,to discuss Cheir needs as far as the rinks were concerned for the youth hocicey program. He had persuaded them to attempt a new system of scheduling games this year, As the Co�runission PARKS & RECREATION CONP4ISSION MF.L'TING, Jt1NE 13, 1979 - PAGE 6 was aware, one of the major concerns about park planning was to eliminate organized games in the neighborizood park areas so they could truly become neighborhood parks. 'This year they were going to L-ry scheduling all house league hockey games at the two Commons rinks. All girls broomball games will be played at Locke Park. So, primarily, they wzll be using only four rinks for organized hockey, as opposed to ei.ght rinks last year. This should aiso open up more rinks for community use. They would also use two other rinks for practice for traveling teams only; however, he did not know to what extent the traveling teams would use the rinks. Mr. Boudreau stated he was suggesting 20 general ice areas as outlined on the attached map, trying to put a general rink into each section of the City, is possible. This year they were eliminating the use of Moore Lake and instead were trying to develop a piece of ice at Hackman Park. He stated that many of- the general ice areas were divided with snow 6erms with general skating on one side and hockey on the other. Mr. Boudreau sta[ed they also have a major change in the location of the hockey xinks. They are suggesting that they cut the rink out of Sylvan and Logan Park and combine these two rinlcs into one and relocate at Stevenson School. The principal at Stevenson School is happy to tiave such a facility for use during the day for the school children and in the evening for the hockey players. He stated he was suggesting 10 hockey rinks for this eeason. MOTION by Dave Kondr.icic, seconded by Jan Seeg recommendations on the number and Iocations o for the 1979-SO season. Upon a voice vote, a declared the motfon carried ur.a'nimously. B. Re.quest - Jeff Gustafson to concur wi_th h4r. Boudreau's e ice areas and hockey rinks on flu¢hes Ms. Aughes stated that the letter from Mr. Gustafson was attached to the agenda. Mr. GustaEson wants to purchase a piece of land from the City in order to add an attached garage with a porch. The amount of land needed is a 2D-25 foot coide strip along Mr. Gustafson's property line. Ms. Seeger stated she did not think the Cormnission caanted to get into this kind of situation and they would be setting a precedent for more requests of tfiis nature. seconded by Dick Younp, to d leff CustaLson. Upoa a voice vote, a11 declared the motion carried unanimously. C. Proposed Park Tour Dates on t The Co�iission set Thursday, July 26, 1979, 6:00-9:00 p.m. for the annual tour of the parlcs. The Commissionets agreed Chat they would like to invite City Council members, Planning Ccmmission memUers, Environmental Quality Commission members, and Human Resource Coumiission memUers, and City Staff to join them on this tour. PAit1:S &. RT:G1iEATIOTi CONuufISSIdN NLr',L'TING, JUR�G 13, 1979 - PAGT' 7 ll. Bud�;et for 19II0 Mr. P,oudreau revietiaed the 1930 Capil-al Outlay budget wiCh Yhe Commission lie stated thaL- the dollar amount for CiCy Garage under "Parics" should be changed to $11,743, Uringing the total budget to $135,403. He stated he would be meeting with CiCy Council on June 25 to discuss t12is budget, al Outl a seconded 6y Dave Kond to the City Council f erson IiuQhes declared E. Request - Grace Evangelical Free Church to recammend the 1980 proval. Upon a voice vote, motion carried.unan �us1 . Ms. Hughes stated that the Corunission had a lel-ter from Roland Peterson,. Church Chairman, asking that the City share in tihe installation of a cyclone fence bet��een Madsen Park and the church property Uecause of problems created by the per.li users. by Jan Seeger, seconded by Bettq land Peterson, Ghurch Chairman, G vote, a11 voCin� aye, Chairperson receive the le Bvanaelical Pree [:hurch. Upon a es declared the motion carried Mr. Roudreau stated he had iriformed the pastor of the c;:iurch that it was the City`s policy that if there was infriegement on the neighbor adjacent to a parlc, the City wi11 share the cost of a four-£oot hi;h cycloize ience which is placed on �he property oc,nier's property and the prnperty owner is chaTged with main.Lenace of that fence. MOTION bv Jan Seeger, tltrough PTanning Coman in the cost of a i-our Evangelical lree Chur declared the motion c ADJOUR.NMEIV'C: seconded by BeCty Me.c ission, that, r.he City -foot high io:�e fen ch . linrn. ... � �ice vote unur. . ,,.. reconm�end to Ci to its policy ween PSadsen Far voein� a-,�e, Cha MOTIOII b}� Jan Seeger, seconded by Betty Mech, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, Chairperson Hughes decLared the Sune 13, 1979, Parks & Recreation Commission meeting adjourned at 9:45 g.m. Respectfully submitted, /, '`i � f%. `�:1:� cS`' � .- c. L `�GL� Lynrie SaUa Recording Secretary ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING JUNE 19, 1479 CALL TO ORDER• Chairperson Langenfeld called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. ROLL CE�I.L: Members Present: Jim Langenfeld, Bruce Peterson, Lee Ann Sporre, Connie Metcalf Members Absent; Marvin Hora Others Present; Jerrold Boardman, City Planner Bill Deblon, pssociate Planner APYROVAL OF APRIL 17, 1979, ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COI�lISSTON MINUTES: MOTION by Ms. Sporre, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to approve the April 17, 1979, Environmental Quality Go�ission minutes as written. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Langenfeld declared the motion carried unanimously. APPRaVAL OF APRIL 27, 1979, SPECIAL ENVIRONMENTAL QUALI71' COMNfiSSION MINiJTiS: MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Ms. Sporre, to approve the April 27, 1979, Special Envirornnental Quality Commission minutes as written. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Langenfeld declared the motion carried unanimously. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: The following items were added to the agenda under "Other Business": A. Resignation Letter from Gordon Wilson B. Status of Tape Recorder C, Report on New Highway 10 Public Hearing D. Bather, Ringrose & Wolsfeld (BRW) Report on Northtown Corridor River Crossings DI�TION by Ms. Metcal£, seconded by Mr. Peterson, to approve the agenda as amended. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Langenfeld declared the motion carried unanimously. 1. CONTINUED: REVIEW OF COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT PLAN; Mr. Boardman introduced Mr. Deblon, the new Associate Planner in the Planning Department, to the Commission members. ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 19, 1979 - PAGE 2 Mr. $oardman stated that the Planning Department was in the process of doing same reorganizing of the Comprehensive Development P2an to make it easier to read. They were developing goals, objectives, policies and subpolicies instead of implementation and putting all of those at the 6eginning of each section. A general strategy for laying out the entire document with an overall comprehensive plan map will be at the beginning of the document instead of the introduction. Then each section will have a stra[egy lay- out, going into goals, objectives, and policy statements. All of the inventory will be after each of those areas in a kind of index, Mr. Boardman stated there had 6een a timetable problem with the Plan when Mr. Leek left the City and a time delay before h£ring Mr. Devlon. Mike Fran2en has been working very heavily with the P2an for over a week. They were taking many comments from the commissions as to the problems with the Plan and were putting it together so it would be in a more ordered form and more under- standable. They hoped to have it completed by the end of June: Mr. Peterson suggested that maybe it would be a good fdea to bind all the inventory in a separate appendix. All goals, objectives, and"policies could be in one document and the inventory, which fs tons of paper and maps, could be bound in a separate document as a separate reference, Mr. Boardman stated it was a good idea and they would take it into consider- ation. Mr. Boardman stated that when this documezit was com.pleted, the Commission might want to hald a specia2 meeting to review the Plan. They hoped to have the Plan to the commissions and the Planning Coum�ission in July. MOTION by Mr. Peterson, seconded by Ms. Sporre, to table discussion on the Comprehensive Development Plan until the new revised Compxehensive Develop- ment Plan is available. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Langenfeld declared the motion carried unanimously. 2. REPORT ON UNDERGROUND CONSTRUCTION SEMINAR:- LEE ANN SPORRE: Ms. Sporre stated this conference that was held at the HoZiday Inn on Apri1 29-30 deait primarily with marketing of underground construction. Because the emphasis was on marketing this time, they talked about obstacles to be overcome in financing a hame. As the con£erence was developing, she realized there were so many people talking about the actual financing of underground homes that they glossed over whether or not anyone would want to buy one. She stated there were several hundred people in attendance, comprised mainly of realtors. She asked the conference moderator to ask for a show of hands of people who felt, bazring obstacles in financing, that the public was ready to accept underground construction. She stated the response was unanimous, and she felt that was one of the most important things that came out of the conference. ENVIRONMENTAL �JALITY COMMTSSION MEETTNG, JUNE 19, 1979 - PAGE 3 Ms. Sporre stated the reason the conference was held was because she thought there were so many people now who are ready to build underground and are building undergYOUnd that they need to know how to get lending agencies to give them money. They explained that.risk and time cost money, and bankers are loaking for no-risk and no-time involved in lending out money. With underground construction, the banks are required to do a lot of research in evaluating property for appraising it and are required to assume a certain amount of risk in whether they can market a home if the owner defaults on the mortgage. Ms. Sporre stated there were out-of-state people who talked about earth-sheltered success and that they were building on large scale. One firm had such a demand for earth-sheltered housing that they had put restrictions on the people talking to them. It cost $50 to even discuss building with them and they were 50 homes behind at this time. This firm has never advertised: The man who spoke was Don Secrist with Solar Earth Energy, Inc., Reynoldsburg, Ohio. He had also stated it has never taken them longer than 33 minutes to overcome any building codes in anp municipality and never more than 30 minutes to get financing, The point Mr. Secrist made of why people are going to build underground was . because the homes of today wi11 be the slums of tomorrow. The'rich will not have to make double mortgage payments, because they can afford to go undexground. Ms. Sporre stated Chere wi11 be a free public seminar the third week in 7uly which is going to deai with earth-sheltered multiple family housing. It is a workshop that wi11 deal with rentals and condominiums. The phone number for reservations is 647-0815. The workshop will be put on by Gary Solomonson of Gary Solomonson, Inc., St. Paul. This firm dealt with Che new underground units, Seward West Townhouses, south of 94 off Riverside, which sold in three weeks. Ms. Sporre stated she would like to see Fridley encourage earth-sheltered multiple family housing, because Fridley was going to be encouraging more density housing. Ms. Metcalf asked Mr. Boardman to check and report to the Commission on where solar energy homes were located in the City of EridLey. 3, OTHER BUSINESS: A. Resi�nation Letter from Gordan Wilson Mr. Langenfeld read a letter from Gordon Wilson to Cheryl Moses stating his resigz�ation from the Environmental Quality Commission. B, Status of Tape Recorder Mr. Boardman stated there was now a tape recorder available for commission use in the City Manager's office. � ENVIKONMENTAL QUAI,ITY COMM'CSSZON MEETING JUNE I9 1979 - PAGE 4 C. Report on New Highway 10 PubZfc Hearing Ms. Sporre stated there was a public hearing called on �une 13 for the new truck highway 10, because the draFt Environmental Impact Statement {EIS) was now ready for public review. The report was prepared by Bazton-Ashman Associates, The consultant suggested that Highway 10 be rerouted a miLe north of the existing Highway 10, the reason being they can expand the £acility and minimfze the impacC on the existing Highway 10. MOTION by Ms. Sporre, seconded by Ms. Metcalf, to receive into the record a letter from Jerry Kuehn, Administrator of Planning, Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, in response to the proposaJ, by Barton- Ashman Associates. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Chairperson Langenfeld declared the motion carrieduunanfmously.. Ms, Sporre stated that in this letter the I?epartment of Natural Resources (DNR) states that the proliferation of corridors is not only poor land use, but is particularly detrimental to the natural resources and con- tributes to often associated undesirable development.. They claim they are particularly concerned with this project because it would affect nearly 300 acres of wetlands. Because of the new construction, good wildlife habbitat will be affected. The wetlands and watershed ultimately do end up concerning Fridley, because two streams are affected--Pleasure Creek in Coon Rapids and Spring Brook Creek which becomes part of Fridlev. The DNR said that run-off contains nutrients and pollutants that will advezsely affect adjacent wetlands. .As an alternative to the proposal of ' relocating Highway 10, they say an upgraded Highway 10 in its present Iocation could tie into the remaining part of the NorthCOVm Corridor and serve virtually the same purpose. Ms. Sporre stated that since this was an official position by DNR, she wanted to share it with the Commission. She felt the new highway did impact Fridley because it did impact the watercourses in Fridley. She stated that comments has been requested from many agencies and public groups and of the agencies notified, Fridley was not included. Since Springbrook ended up in Fridley, she thought it ought to be brought to their attenCion that Spring Brook is a Fridley creek and Fridley would wanted to have been notified on decisions that impacted Fridley property. She would like to see the Commission respond to the EIS by supporting the DNR's opionion. She felt they should advise the City Council to notify MnDOT that Fridley is concerned and is affected by this decision and Chat MnDOT look closely at the DNR's recommendations. Mr. Boardman stated he thought the first step would be'for Staff to obtain the EZS to see what it said and to what affect it would actually have on Fridley. D. River Crossings & Wolsfeld Ms. Sporre stated she was conta about a notice put in the Coon Northtown Corridor. Mr. Tenney his properties at Janesville an to find out where the Corridor In doing this, Ms. Sporre state consultant:`.s report, which turn tant's reuort 19 t on Northtown Corridor ed by a Fridley resident, Russell Tenney, pids Herald about the hearing on the as concerned because this was close to Kimball Streets, and he wanted Ms. Sporre s and how it related to his properties. she proceeded to obtain a copy of the out to 6e a very difficult process. a voice voCe, al irst Level Evaluation wois� rson L the Ms. Sporre stated that the inforinational meeting was held by SR� at Adams Elementary School on June �1 to present the document to the public. There was a tremendous turn-out for this meeting. Ms. Sporre stated she wanted the Commission to lm ow that there is a North Crosstown Thoroughfare 169',Management Committee comprised of the cities of Blaine, Brooklyn Cente�, Brooklyn Park, Champlin, Coon Rapids, Maple Grove, and Anoka County, H�nnepin County, and Metropolitan Counczl. Fridley was not a member of this',Committee. She stated that when she inquired as to why Fridley had npt been involved, she was told that Fridley had initially been involved but had opted out of the involvement before the consultant was hired in Dece�ber 1976. That was why Fridley had not xeceived a copy of the consultant's report and why Fridley was not involved at this time. Mr. Boardman stated that was truB. Fridley had opted out primarily because they felt the Corridor was fairl� well established in the direction 3t was going and, although the Corr�dor had affects as far as interchange affects on East River Road, they'Ireally were not involved.in the alignments of the actual Corridor. All Fri�ley wanted to be involved in was notifi- cation of those things that would happen that would affect Fridley, as far as traffic, interchange locaGions, etc., and at least have some say in what was going to happen in thos9 areas, Ms. Sporre stated Fridley shouldlbe involved. The decision would affect people in Fridley, because for e�ght hours.a day, the District 16 portion of Fridley attend school in the Qorridor. Also, the Corridor has changed position. There is an alternati�e new route. The original 1973 route was the north route. The possiblje change is a south route. The consultant at the meeting on June 11 said that he coald noC pinpoint where they were now proposing it because it could,be as much as 500-600 feet north or south of either of the routes. W'hat she thoughC was interesting was that ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 19, 1979 - PAGE 6 they did say that the people on the-other side of the river had been going to the meetings, had been very vocal, and had been part of the decision on the west side. Those peopte knew exact2y where it was going to be, yet on this side of the river, that location is very vague. Ms. Sporre stated that since the consultant agrees that it could be 500-600 feet north or south of the southern route, this would put the bridge virtually on Breckenridge Island. She stated the reason the consultant is suggesting going south with the Corridor rather than the northern route in the 1973 proposal Ls because Anoka County and Hennepin County Park Reserve Disr.rict has significant amount of park7.and affected by the northern route. Since Anoka County and Hennepin County are involved in the Management Couemittee, they have protected their property. Ms. Sporre stated this route was very close to Springbrook Nature Center, and she felt that Fridley ought to be involved in the Management CommiCi.ee. She stated the "First Leve1 Evaluation" was prepared for the North Management Cammittee. The municipalities and agencies involved in this documeut wiZl now be receiving and taking action. Since Metropolitan Council is one of the agencies receiving this document and taking action on it, there is a mechanism by which Fridley can interact with Metropolitan Council in response to this document. Also Fridley is a part of Anoka County and Fridley could respond to Anoka County. She believed it was appropriate for Fridley to become patt of the'North Managemznt Comuiittee. IIecause of the new Federal Council of Environmental Quality EpA guidelines, the public must be involved at an earlier stage. The North Management Committee is the early involvement in compliance with those EPA gnidelines. _ ___ Mr. Boardman stated that whe❑ Fridley was involved in the actual first location, he and Mr. qureshi were involved in the initial Task Force. At that time, they had made the decision that they wanted to be involved in the updating and they wanted to be involved as far as any information that czme out of the Task Force, but they did not feel the necessity of being directly involved with the decision making. He was not totally sure that Fridley shouZd become a part of the Management Commi.ttee at this time, as long as Fridley had the opportunity to voice their opinions. He was a little upset when everyone was being notified and not the City of Fridley. � The City found out because of phone:;calls from people in that area. Ms. Sporre stated she felt the City should respond to Anoka County, Metropolitan Council, or become a member of the North Management Committee. It was in the best interest of Fridley to become a part of the North Mana�emant Committee, because of early involvement and because ot the new EPA ruling on involvement. Mr. Langenfeld stated he would like to see someone represent the City of Fridley and at least see how much involvement Fridley would actually have. Mr. Boardman stated that when notices were sent to Fridley residents, a notice should also have been sent to the City. I Ms. Sporre stated she had read �he document and she believed that the City of Fridley should respond �o the document and the alternative corridors, The cover letter for the report'',from MnDOT sCated that the:hearings were already closed, However, the m eting with the consultant was held after that date so she believed that t is still open. She would like to see the City respond to MnDOT thaC he project be deferred untiL alternatives to mitigate Che detrimental eif cts are developed. i Mr, Boardmanstated it was going �,to be hard to comment because Fridley reaLly did not know what the implacts of the locations of these alternative corridors were going to have unt�l the EIS's are completed. At this time, there were three alternatitres--the north route, the south route, or no route. Ms. Sporre,read the following st8temenC from the Transit News Quarterly: "A study by the Tri-State RBgional Planning Co�anission, New York area, done in 1976, conclud¢d that making it more difficult to use the automobile has a ra$her noticeable impacC on public transit, There is a need for both the Federal and State Government to determine the role of transi,t and then to use policies which wi11 help to achieve that role. Additionally, government should aCtempt to develop some form of soci;al cost accounting so that it may s3gnificantly improve the sejtCing of transportation priorities to serve communiCy needs." ' Ms, Sporre stated that she though� "social cost accounting" was very important because no one is teally putting a value on the fact thaC her children can bike to their friend� in their classroom now. That is important to her children and to �er. If that is lost because of a high- way construction, that ought to b� weighed as a"social cost accounting". She thought that study has provedlthat there are alternatives that work, and maybe the City of Fridley shoti�ld be proposing the North rianagement Co�mmittee. Maybe they can save time with transit and maybe they can plan a transit system that is fasC and,effective. AA70URNMENf: ' MOTION by Ms. Metcalf, seconded by Mr.', Peterson, to adjourn the meeting. Upon a voice voCe, all voting aye, Chaiirperson Langenfeld declared the June 19, 1979, Environmental Quality Ciommission meeting adjourned at 10:30 p.m, Respectfully sub itted, L QiYC� %�lVi_/ Lynne�aba Recording Secretar� crrx bF r�mr�r APPEALS COMMCSSION GALL TO ORDER: Vice Chairwoman Gabel called the Co�ission to order at 7:30 P.M, ROLL CALL• Membere Present: Mr. Plemel� Ms. Members Absent: Ms. Schnabel Othexs Present: Mr. Clsrk� Co�uni l. APPROVE APPEAIS COMMISSION MINUi' � 26� 1q79� meeting of the Appeals Mr. Barna, Mr. Kemper (arrived at 7:35 P.M.) Development Adm3nistrator JfIPIE 12 MOTION by Mr. Barna, seconded by hir.IPlemel� to approve the June 12� 1q79� minutes of the Appeals Co�nission. , tk'ON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CARRIED iJNANIMOUSI�Y. 2. CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED TAE MOTION FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO REDUCE MOTION by Mr. Plemel� seconded by Mr+ Barna� to open the Public Hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYEJ V$CE CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARID Ti� PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:31 P,M. I Ms. Gabel asked Mr. McKay to come f Review as follows. Ms. Gabel also was incorreet. The correct address 5�8 A. PUBLIC Section 205.053� �tB� requires a Public purpose served by this re 20 feet between living areas in garages and living areas in adja conflagration of fire. It is al open areas around residential st rd and read the Administrative Staff cated that the address in the a�enda 5218 Matterhorn Drive Ne. STAFF REPORT Drive N.E. foot setback Por living area. rement is to maintain a minimum of acent structures and 15 feet between t structures to reduce exposure to to allow for aesthethically pleasing turea. _ . _ I_ _ __ _.._.. _ ..-� APF'EAIS COhII�ffSSION MEETING, Jf)f� 26, 1979 PAGE 2 _ . ; 4�� . ' 1 U• "2+�y mother in law� a aenior citizen, will be moving in with us to make her home there. Also, we are expecting another child snd therefore we need four bedrooms which the living area over the garage will give us." C. ADN�IISTRATIVE STAFF REVIEW: The existing attached garage is 5.12 feet (verified) from the north lot line. The ad,jacent structure to the north is approximately 20 feet frc� the coamion lot line resulti,ng in more than the 20 feet between living areas: Mr. MeKey stated that he would like to put a bedroom� a bathroom snd a den over the garage which wovld amount to approximate],y 600 square feet. The reason for the additional space is because his mother in law w311 be moving in with them. Also� they are expecting another child. He stated they had already enlarged the kitchen. The entrance to the new addition would be from the existing dining room to the proposed den. Ms. Gabel stated they had received a letter from John and Terry Millang� 5232 Matterhorn Drive N.E.� stating they had no objections. They would be the most' affected neighbor. She read the letter and stated a motion would be in order to receive the letter. . MOTION by Mr. Plemel� seconded by Mr. Barna� to rece3ve the letter fr� John and Terry Mi]3.ang. Nh�. Plemel asked if these were the neighbors who were 20 ieet away. Mr. McK�y stated that Was correct and he also stated that they did not have a window on that side of theix house. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE C1iAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARID Ti� MOTION CARRIED UNANQMDUSLY. Mr. McKay asked about a fire wall. Ms. Gabel stated that StaYP would determine if he aeeded a Yire wa7.1. Mr. Clark stated that with thia distance between structures� a fire wa1Z would not be necessary. Ms. Gabel asked if he could have a window thereY Mr. Clark stated that would be no problem. _. _ . _ _ _ _ _ _._ , .�.� Mr. Plemel asked iY they were going and tie the new rooY into the roof 1 Mr. MeKay stated that he didn�t thin ie setback a little. Ms. Gabe1 stated he would have to ti structure. She asked if the sidittg ' Mr. McXsy stated that it would look , Ms. Gabel asked iP he would be doing Mr. McKa,y stated he would hire a con Ms. Gabel asked if they had to stabi Mr. McKa,y stated a beam and a center take ofY that whole roof over the garage oY the house? it would tie in euact�y because the garage it in someway so it Would look like one uld be the`same? and the siding would be the same. himself? to do it. the garage? would be put 1n. MOTION by Mr. Kempers seconded by Nfr.IHarna� to close the Pub2ic Hearing. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� HEARING CLOSED AT 7:3B P.M. hlr. Pleme7, stated that because there the other structure is far enough aw CHAIRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC no neighborhood objection and because he would have no objectiott. Mr. Barna stated he did not see a�y p blem with it and felt they wovld build a good structure. Ae stated he drove by and looked at it and stated they had approved a similar one at the end of N�tterhorn Drive within the last six montha. Ms. Gabel asked Mr. McK�Y iP he had ta�Lked to his other neighbors about thisY Mr. MeKay stated that he had talked toiall. of them and they had no objection. P+K)TION by Mr. Plemel� seeonded by Mr. �arna, to approve the request for a variance pursuant to Chapter 205 of the FridleylCity Code to reduce the side yard setback from 10 feet to 5.12 feet to allow the,construction pf additional living space over an existing attached garage at 52]�8 Matterhorn Drive N.E. [A'ON A VOICE V07�� ALL VOTTNG AYE� VIC CARRIED UNANIN�USLY. Ms. Gabel informed the petitioner that Mr, MeKay thanked the commissioners. N�TZON by Ah�. Kemper� seconded 6y Mr. of the Appeals Co�3ssion. CHA7ItWOMAN GABEL DECLARID THE M�ION was free to get a buildin� permit. to adjourn the June 26, 1979, meeting _ _ I . � APPEAIS CON�ffSSION MEETING, JUNE 26, 1979 PAGE 4 UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� VICE CHAZRWOMAN GABEL DECLARED THE MEETTNG ADJOtktNED AT 7:40 P.M. Respectful],y Submitted; �r�, ��� Katk�y Sh ton� Recording Secretary CITY OF FRIDLEY 1I ���� ��: Chairmen Aarris caLled the Ju�y 11� 1979, meetin� oP the Planning Com�a3.ssion to order at 7:35 P.M. ROLL CALL• Members Present: Ms. Hu�hes} Mr. Oquist� Ms. Schnabel� Mr. Harris, Mr. Langenfeld (8:50) Members Absent: Mr. Treuenfels- _ _J - Others Present: Bill Deblon, Associate Planner Mike Franzen , Planning Staff 1. APPROVE PLANNING COMMISSIOld MlNtli`ES: JTJPII� 20, 197g: M(YPION by MC. Oquist� aeconded by Ms. Hughes� to approve the June 20� 1979� Planning Commi.ssion minutes. UU�ON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRMAN fiARRIS DECLARED TI� MDTION CARRIED tJidANIM0U5LY. 2. Motion by Ms. Schnebel� seconded by Mr. Oquist� to open the Public Bearing. tk'ON A VOICPs VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARIiIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:40 P.M. A�m. Deblon gave the Co�i.ssioners a copy of the site plan. He stated that it was current]y classified M-1 and the petitioner vould like to cl�ange it to CR-1 which is light co�rcial or light oYYice use. It appears that the preseat zoning is incomvatible to surrounding uses. The ai oind;no AYPnC tsLaaacSftad_ C�1� C-2, R-1 and C-2S, with the excepfion_of the immediatelv ad�acent lots which are zoned M�1 -- — - — — - 1�. Hughes acked where the other zonings were located. Mr. Iiarris stated they were located across the street and to the south on the same side. The Co�issioners examined a map which indicated the various zonin�s. Mr. Deblon etated it was virtual�y an island of M-1 zonin� surrounded by Gl, G2� etc. '- StaEf, Yelt this was mis-zoned and the M-1 is incompstible with the surroundSng uses. Also, there is marginal accessibility for an M-1 2oning. PLANNING GOMt�1ISSI0N P�E'TING, JULY 11, 19� PAGE 2 Mr. Aeblon stated the petitioner proposed to bui.ld two buildin�s. One would be built prioz' to the othar one� but the second one vrould be started by the completion time of the Eirst one. There would be adeguate parking available. On the side zoned R-l� they would want to insure adequate screening either by vegetation or Yencing. They observed fr� Yield anal,ysis that there is eurrent]y adequate acreening by vegetation. The existing trees would add aesthetically to the development. Mr. Franzen stated that the City was looking at other areas of the City and nonsidering phasing out� over a long period of time� some of the M-1 areas that are similar to this area. Staff Pelt that the M-1 zoning in this particular area is incompatible with the residential areas across the street. Staff did not see ax1Y problem at this time with a request to rezone this property. The property and the plan,��et a�7, the requirements oF the zoning code. AJ.so� this plan wi7.1 have to be reviewed by the Rice Creek Watershed District which is one of t}�e reasons for the temporary ponding area in the back, This property is located within the Rice Creek Wstershed District. He stated there wss a drainage flow into Moore Lake from this particular parcel. Ms. Sebnabel stated that she was concerned because it is a marginally swampy area. Ntt�. Franzen stated that the proposed structure would bmve no basement, but a slab layed out on the land. It vould be a two story structure. Mr. Oquiet asked if they would have pile-ons? Mr. Franzen stated that he believed they would. Mr. Harris stated they would have to check the soil. Ms. Iiughes asked about the psrking and if there was any excess7 The petitioner� Mr. R, C. Witt, stated there would be three over and above the number required by code. He stated tk�at the proposed plan met all the requirements with one exception. A 110 foot setback is required and the plan would not meet that requirement at this time. However� the architect will change the plan io �et that requirer�nt. There is plenty of side yard and back yard clearance avail- sble. To their knowledge� the plait is otherwise satiafactory. Rice Creek Water- shed saii]1 go over the ponding area. Ae stated they would be checking the soil and stated there was a frost footing around the proposed building. The indepth ground ].evel vould be 3 to 5 feet. The only area he thought could be unsuitable wes the back corner, Ms. Schnabel stated that she understood they were building two sepsrate buildinge and asked iY they were building it for resale or iP they intended to keep it? Also� if they did intend to sell, would they sell both buildings or just onel Mr. Witt stated they intended to keep the buildings. If they ever decided to sell� they would sell both buildings. The way it's ].ayed out� it would be di£ficult to aplit it up. PLANNING CONII�ILSSION MEETIP7GLJULY 11� l� - PAGE 3 Mr. IIsrris asked what the setback would be Pr� the rear lot line to the proposed bui],ding2 Mr. Witt stated the lot was about 300 Yeet deep and the setback would be about 30 or �+0 feet. Mr. Harria asked haw much of that they intended to leave natural4 Nh�, Witt etated they planned to leave ell the trees and would try to maintain the natural shrubs� etc. Mr. Harris stated he was concerned about leaving enougYi room for screening. He asked what the side yard ofYset would be? Mr. Witt ststed that he believed it would be about 20 feet. Mr. Harrie st�ted he was concerned that the poudin� area be large enough to handle the runoff. Mr. Witt stated that Rice Creek Watershed would have to detes�mi.ne what is necessary there. Mr. Harris stated that would eYfect the l�yout of the plan. Mr. Witt statecl that he had talked to his arch3tect and the architect Pelt it would be more tt�an enough. Nfr. Harris asked if Mr. Witt was familar with what �ould be allowed in a CR-1 zoneY Ma. Hughes aeked what types of buainesses he p7.anned on having in the buildin�sY She Was con¢erned that the two i�l zonings could be a detrement to the oYfice building. Mr. Witt stated that he felt Ziebart had a c].ean building and was not too concerned about that. Eie had talked to Mr. Boardmen about what was allowed in a CR-1 and he would be looking at tenanta such as smsll inavrance agencies� real estate of£ices� etc. Ms. Schnabel read the code for Mr. Witt and stated that CR-1 wou].d a11oF* general ofiices and 13mited busineases such ae real estate� lawyers� medical� dental� optical� etc. Ms. Sebnabel asked what type oi signing they wovld have to alert people to the businesaes located there7 Mr. Witt stated the architect would design the si�ns and they would be according to tha requirements. Mr. Aarris stated that a si� tskes a separate permit and suggested Mr. Witt read the sign ordinance. PI�ANriIIQG COl�ffSSTON MEEP21� JULY 11, 1979 PAGE 4 Mr. Jerry Wraneschetz� 6355 Pierce St. NE� came forward and statedi��a house was located i�ediate]y to the �est of the lot in question. He was concerned that they dan�t chop down the trees there. He stated he had talked to Councilman Dennie Schneider and was concerned because this vacant lot acts as a holding pond Yor water. When it rains hard� the water lays there and graduall,y seepe in. In a hsrd rain� the water backs up into his yard and his neighbors yard. He would not like to see them blacktop the whole thin� because it would make the problem worse. Ms. Schnabel suggeated Mr. Wraneschetz look at the proposed plsn� and in particu].ar the proposed pondin� area. Mr, Franzen stated that Rice Creek Watershed requires that the existing runofP cannot be exceeded by another development. So� the amotmt of water that runs ofY this property with a parking lot cannot exceed the current amount of runoff. Tbat is the reason for the ponding area. Mr. Wraneschetz asked if they could have flat roofa to hald the water. Mr, Harris atated they would prefer not to do that. Ground ponding is far superior to roof ponding. Also� a swale ahou].d be built. They will have to have a complete drainage plan from Rice Creek Watershed, Mr, Wraneschetz stated he was also concerned about ths screening. In the Pall� when the leave fal.l off, it gets pretty bare and he would like a buffer. Ms. Schnabel asked if there was a depresaion or ditch between Mr. Wraneschetz's property and the lot in questionT Mr. Barris stated there wasn'ti just the generel slope of the land which runs to the south. Mr. Oquiat stated that this could help Mr. Wraneschetz's problem if it is done right. Mr. Harris stated there shovldn't be any drainage from this property onto any other property. Mr. Oqvist asked what the exterior of the building would be? Mr. Witt stated it wouid be cedar srith brick or stone on the front. He was not sure about the sides yet. Ms, Hughes asked if they would proceed with the project if for drainage reasons or other reasons the secox� building wae a problem? Mr. Hitt stated the;t because of the cost of the land� they probab],y would not continue with the project if they couldn't build both buildings. Ms. ScYmabel stated because oY the size oY the property� they could rearrsnge the buildings if necessary. PLANNING COPM�'SSION N�EPING, JULY 11, 1979 � P� 5 Mr. Witt stated they had looked at alternatives� such as putting the buildings to,gether� but it c�as decided this was the best plan. He stated the lot was about 70�000 square feet in total and that shou].d be ample. He would like to keep the parking lot in the front of the building because it would be better £or the houses to the rear. MOTION by Ms. 5chnabel� seconded by Ms. Hughes� to close the Public Hearin�. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALI. VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN AARRIS DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARIPiG CLOS&D AT 8.15 P.M. Ms. Schnabel asked if StafP had heard from ac�y other neighbors re�arding this request? Mr. Deblon stated they had not as far as he knew. Ms. Hughes stated that it seemed a reasonably good solution to the zoning problems and elso� iY for some reason the project Was not completed� it would still be a reasonable rezoning. Mr. Oquist asked what was allowed in an M-17 Ms. Schnabel stated that M-1 allowed manufacturing� bvilding material yards� nontractor's yards� lumber yards� bus and tsxi storage� warehousea� etc. bIr. Harris stated that M-1 is probably not in keepiag with the neighbors� but technecally� this is a spot rezoning. Mr. Oquiat stated that because they have Midwest Storage on one side and Ziebart on the other side� it would be better to p].qy it down so they don't get a similar use in there. NFr. Harris asked if StafP had researched to see if this was rezoned before2 Mr. Deblon stated they had looked into that but could not find the date it was reZOned if it was rezoned. Mr. Harris suggested they research that and Yind out before this goes to Council. Ms. Schnabel suggestsd that Staff put that kind oY information on the application. P30TION by Ms. Hughes� aeeonded by Ms. Schnabel� io recommend to Council approval of Rezoning Request� ZAA �79-05� by R, C. Witt Construction to rezone Lots 2 snd 3 Block 1� Hex�sl Rice Creek Terrace� fr� M-1 (light industrial areas) to CR-1 (general office and limited buainess)� to allow the construction oY two ofYice buildings� 30 feet by 128 i'eet, the same being 633o and 6370 Central Ave. N.E.� with the following stipulations: 1)a drainage p7.an be on file before this request goes to Council: and 2) adequate screening from residential areas and also a landscapi.ng plan outline on Pile. UPON A VOICE VO'PE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN H.4RRI5 DECLARED TflE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOTSLY. Mr. Asrris informed the petitioner that this would go to Council on Ju]y 23� 1979• He suggested Mr. Witt get started on the drainage plan� because R3ce Creek Wa'ter- shed only meets once a month. PLANNING CONII$IS9ION MEETING, JULY 11, 1�9 - _ PAGE 6 3. RSCEIVE PARKS & RECREATION C�ffS5I0N MINC�PE3: JtJt� 13, 1979: MOTION by Ms. Hughea� seconded by Ms. Schnabel� to receive the June 13, 1979� m3nutes of the Parks & Recreation Commission. Ms. Hughes referred to the motion on page 5 regarding the Northtown Bridge Crossing and siated they had discussed this at the last Planning Co�nission �eting and had requested some additional information from Staff. AJ.so� Ms. Hughes pointed out the motion on page 7 regardiug the Grave Evangelical Free Church and stated they had recanmended they adhere to the policy on fences. __�----- Mr. Diblon stated there were four alternatives being discussed and the eventual choice will probably depend upon the decision to be ma de regarding T.H. I110. He stated he called the Project Manager for the Minnesota Department of Transportation, District 5, and requested that the City of Fridley be notified of all future meetings in the Coon Rapids area regarding this matter. Some time ago, the Gity was going to be on the Committee, but, but had opted out because the alter�atives didn't affect Fridley. Not it seems there are alternatives that would affect Fridley. They now have what is called the "First Level Evaluation". Some citizens are concerned about this because they fear this will be their only opportunity to provide input. Actually, this was incorrect. There are new guidelines from the Council of Environmental Quality, National Environmental Policy Act. This has created a new environmental impact review process. The "First Level Evaluation" involves the public and naxrows the number of alternatives. The public will be involved through- out the whole process. They will not be excluded after this first process. The main thing he wanted to assure the Commission was that Staff would be notified of all future meetings regarding this. A decision has not 6een made and would probably depend upon the decision for T.H. 1i10. Mr. Hsrris asked what the southern most alternative wasY He was concerned about County Road 132. Mr. Deblon stated they kiad on]y ideniified a corridor and had not given any speciYics. Ms. Hughes stated that one proposed route could touch a small portion of Fridley. She stated that the EIS on the bridge relocation would not be done until October. Ms. Avghes also stated that the Park Coffinittee was concerned about the impact the relocation would have on Spring Brook and North Park. The impact could be significant. Mr, Deblon stated that StafP would provide reports to keep everyone informed. UPON A VOICE VO`t'E� AIS. VOTING AYE� CAAIRMAN &4TiRI5 DECLARED THE M(YPION CARRIED UNANIN�USLY. 4. RECEIVE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITX CoMMISSION MINtfl�s: JUNE 19, 197�: M(YPION by Mr. Langenfeld� secon@ed by Ms. Schnabm7.r to receive the June 19� i979, minutes oP the Environmental Quality Ca�nission. PLANNII� CQMMLSSION MEETING, JULY 11, 1979 PAGE 7 Mr. Iangenfeld stated that he did not feel the need to go throt�gh the minutes at any great length because they touched on it at their last meeting. Ae stated tY�at the minutes indicated they were in concurrance with Ms. Hughes's recommendations. At their next meeting they would be discussing the feasibility of the Environmental Impact Ststement-regardiug the reroutin� oi Highway 10. He reierred to page 2 oi the minutea regarding under�round construction and stated that the_ more he read about this, the more interesting it was. Mr. Deblon stated that after review�ng T.H, 1i10 EIS, he felt it demonstrated a need for action to alleviate the volume of traffic. The EIS addresses that question and also the relief 8ained along community thoroughfares• The EIS revealed plan compatibility with two counties, four communities and the region. Mr. Oquist asked if it would go through Fridley? Mr. Deblon stated it would not. It would go through Coon Rapids, Moundsview, Spring Lake Park and Blaine. The Environmental Zmpact Statement states that each cotmnunity has either a plan which includes the proposed action or has assumed that the proposed plan would be constructed. He stated this was for the new route and also stated that patt of the new route is already in existence. In no way do the plans reject the need for an improved highway in this area. The EIS goes on to say that both Coon Eapids and Blaine have made strong comitments in support of the construction of the relocaeion of T.H. ik10. Blaine has included a corridor for relocated T.H. I110 in the project area in it's zoning map since 1962. The main reason for the support of the relocation of T.H. f110 is to remove through traffic from their Center Citys';. Mr. Harris asked if and how the upgrading of T.H. fi10 would affect Fridley? Mr. Deblon staed that he didn't think the upgrading of T.H.Ii10 would effect • Fridley that much, However, there would be temporary stream turbidity from_ construction, and also possibly more salt discharged into Spring Brook, which is a Fridley creek. _ _�. _ � , --- Ma. Hughes stated that the other majnr impact would be what would happen to 69�+. By putting in a brldge crossin� and upgrading Highway 10, it presumably could alleviate some of the traffic. However, they are planning to expand 694 ty several lanes and the situation will xiot change. There will be no benefit gained from Highway 10. Part of the l.an�u�e in_this ana in the other bridge location indicates that it is unaeceptable to do what the Emirbnmental Quality Commission had talked about� creating congestion to change travel patterns. One of the things� by not building Ftighway 10 and by not expanding bridges might well be that you would create enough congestion that people are forced into another mode of transit. That is a viable alternative and they are begi.nning to see a few demonstrations of that. They might choose mass transit. Mr. Oquist stated that first they had to have the tranait eystem. Mr. Deblon stated that -the philosopY�y of Metropolitan Council was to make more e£xicient uae oX what we'have and that would be to iaeprove and gpgrade the-ex�sting system in piaces. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JULY 11, 1979 PAGE 8 Mr. Harris stated that with all the construction going on, they should be able to do something about the quality of water in Spring Brook. Mr. Deblon stated that in the EIS, there were probably impacts on adjacent wetlands and Spring Brook that would have to be mitigated. Moreover, the Fish and Wildlife and the Deparment of Natural Resources (DNR) have expressed concern for the wetlands, wildlife and drainage affected by the action. The EIS takes into account their recommendations. Mr. Deblon stated that the main ef�ect of the action on 'Fridley wou�d Ue �e�ated to run:-�ff.- Run-off "will flow to e�cisting wetlands and constguction ponding axeas adjacent to the corridor"_ The runroff would tHen be carried away b� creeks suCh, as Spring Brook. The relocation of T.H. ��10 would cross Spring &book at tfie Polk Street intersection. At this crossing, the "channel and fiydraultc characterist�cs of this stream would be preserved in the design of the crossing, and monitoring would be done to determine the effectiveness of erosion conErols dur�ng construction", In regar8 to water quality, "the filling of e�etlands (_known to remove a variety of potential polutants by means of physfcal entrapment, microbial transforma- tion and biological utilisation}" will lower water qualtiy. However, the proposed action does offer the opportunity to restore wetland functions in ameas (i,e. embank- ments and drainage facilities can be used to impound water). Mr. Harris stated that a major source of pollution was salt from highways. Mr. Langenfeld stated that he felt they would be grossly affected by this, especially in regard to water quality and pollution and also that Coon Rapids would be faced with quite a situation as things continue. He stated that he had little faith in the DNR. Also, on page six of the minutes he had indicated that he hoped somebody from Fridley would be representing the City. Mr. Deblon stated that Staff will represent the City in all highway construction proposals affecting Fridley. Ms. Schnabel asked if the current T.H. ��10 was upgraded, would there be any adverse effects or any impact on Fridley? Mr. Deblon stated that construction would increase the turbidity of Spring Brook but that would be minimized by diversion ponding and other techniques. But this increase in turbidity would only be during the initial construction. Also, if th�re is a lot of snowfall, it might cause the use of more salt. The highway would be upgraded to freeway standards. Ms. Schnabel stated that she thought in was incredible that the State was considering even building a new freeway with the price of gasoline going up and with the new attitude toward public transporation. Ms. Hughes asked which alternative seemed most likely. Mr. Deblon stated L�at the EIS portrayed the new construction as being the best alternative for the communities involved. Ms. Schnabel said the City should stay on top of it regardless of which alternative was decided upon. Mr. Deblon stated that staff was not endorcing any of the alternatives, but was attempting to evaluate the effects on Fridley. He concluded athat: 1) there was a need for action to alleviate the traffic volume problem, 2) there would be effects on wetlands and Spring Brook, however measures are going to be take to minimize effects, and, 3) whatever alternative was chosen, the City should ensure that necessary measures are taken to m3nimize the effects on Spring Brook. PLANNI�G COA8dI8SI0N MEETING, JtJLY 11, 197� - PAGE 9 UPON A VOICE VO'1'E� qT,L VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAPI HARRIS DECLARID THE Di(YrION CARRIED t1NAPiIbiOUSLY. 5. xECExvE aP�aLS corm�ssrorr mx�rrES: .nm�_ 26, 1979: N�TIOIV by Ms. Schnabel� seconded by N�'. Langenield� to receive the June 26� 1979, minutes oY the Appeals Co�ission. IIPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VQTING AYE� CHAIRMAIV HAFiFtIS DECLARED TI� MLYl'IOId CARRIED SJ1�IA2iIMOLSLY. 6. TO Mr. Harris stated that Staff tras not prepared to discuss this item and it should be enntinued. Ms. Schnabel etsted that there rras an artiele in the Minneapalis paper laet Saturd�y regarding the new Minneapolis Ordinance regarding this issue, She asked that a copy of the Ordinance be included in the a�enda when they discuss this item. MOTIIN by Ms. Schnabel� eeconded by Mr. Oq,uist� to continue discussion on con- version of rental property to i.ndividual ownership property. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CAAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARID THE MOTION CARRI�D UNANIbI0U5�.Y. Chairman Harris declared a recess at 9:20 P.M. and reconvened the meeting at 9:30 P.M. 7. CONTINL�D: COMPREflENSIVE DEVEIAPMEI� PLAN: Mr. Franzen stated he used various colors '�rere_usad to'identif� the sectious. In the beginning there is an overview which discusses the general plannin� or development direction for the ca�unity. It talks about ihe kind of issues they want to respond to. Each section responds to some of those issues. Each plan follows the same Pormat of having an introduction which is on ye].lrnr paper a� the goals and objectives and policies are in the goldenxod. The inventories are the same but the colored pages indicate the changes they wacle. Mr. Franzen stated that he �rould like to start the discussion with the Overview and would like a general concensus if this is the way they Yeel the co�unity should be going. He stated that once they were done with the Overview Section and get into the specific plans, at the beginning of each plan there is a plan directiun statement. If they can reach a consensus regarding the plan directions� then the goals� objectives and policies will relate to that plan direction, If they wish to make e change, they will make it in the plan direction. PI.ANNIDTG CObAfLSSION �TING, JULY 11, 197g PAGE 11 #5 - Pt�ovision oY Alternative Forms of Tranait: Mr. Harris �sked whex'e they were �oing with that? The implication of the word tran- sit bothered him. Mr. Frsnzen stated they were looking at b�cycle end pedestrian mavement and expanding bicycle and pedestrian accessibility to the shopping areas� etc. Mr. Harris asked if they were proposing the City get into the transit businessY Mr. Franzen stated they were not. Mr. Langenfeld stated it could mean improvin� the exieting MPC system. Ms. Hughea agreed end sdded it cnuld be an addition of crose-tocm movement. Mr. Franzen atated that they do mention that they would like to expand the MPC service. Mr. Aarria asked if the question of ener� was addreeeed in the book. Mr. Franzen stated they addressed that in Your or five diYferent places and aleo in the site plan review process. #1 MAINTAINING ECONOMIC STABILITY AND DIVERSITSC: Mr. Langenfeld referred to the 4th paragraph and stated that he like the general statement but questioned the ].ast sentence in that para�raph. That last sentence could raise all kinds of questions. Mr. Oquist stated he had no problem with it� but when they start trying to clariYy statemenia in a stwm�ery� they should be careful. There are a lot of flower atatemente in the document and this sentence is one of them. Maybe they should lesve it out. bir. Harris agreed and suggested they delete it. Ms. Schnabel stated thet each of the aix issuea listed should correspond to a specific section and perhaps the titles should be the same, The way it is layed out� it ia difficult to foll.ow. For inatance� "Revitalization of Cor�ercial Areas" is under the Iand Use section. The titles should correspond. Mr. 'fYe�lon stated that w�e a good point and would look into elariYying ti�at. Ms, Hughes stated there should also be consistency in the wording. For example� they use "Maintain3.ng° in one title and "Revitalization" in another. To be consistent� "Revitalization" should be "Revitalizing"� etc, She also found a problem with the wording of the title for the housing section. It was confusin� as to whether they were going to rehabilitate houses or neighborhoods. PLANNING CON�ffSSION MEr7PING, dUi.Y 11L 1979 PAGE 12 Ms. $ughes stated tbat she ielt trater quality was a major concern and probably shottld not be under the sewer section. Mr. iiaxris referred to the first paragraph under th3s item and stated that the 1F8'� figure bothered him. Iie asked if that Pigure xas developable land or total industrial land. There is a lot oY industrial zoned land in Fridley that is not build�ble such as the railroad land. He would like to see a figure of how much is buildable induatrial land. He sug�ested that a inventory of the industrial land in Fridley be taken and broken down according to railroad land� buildable lsnd and unbuildable land. With this iigure� we would be kidding ourselves as to how much land is available to be rezoned to residential� which is what we are talking about. We need more specific figures. The Commissioners concurred. Ma. Schnabel asked if we were talking about economic diversityY Mr. Franzen etated tY�at meant that it would not be good for the City to be dependent Ltpon one large compax�y thst could decide to pull out. Mr. Franzen asked if there were atty siginificant issuea that were not addressed in the Overview? Ms. Hughes stated that water quality was the on],y thing she Pelt was left out. MP. Deblon stated they cOUld add 3n overview section for water quality. �2 MEETING EXPAI�IDED RECREATIONAL AI�ID LEISURE I�IDS: Mr. Harris asked Ms. Hughes if she Was happy with this section in the Overview? Ms. Hughes stated that her commission had not yet reviewed this section, but she did have eome changes. One oP the problems in the Park Co�ittee was they had nat discussed the philosophy of where they want the Park Cor�ittee to go and they will be doin� that next week. Because of this she was not ready to co�aent and would like to get input from the rest of the Commission. She did feel they would Want to see more protection of natural areas and also a diversity of programing ofPered including sor� pasaive kinds of things and Yor special in�erest �roupe. She stated that the one thing she found to be missing was a statement regarding providi.ng adequate parT acreage. Mr. Franzen referred to the last paragraph. Ms. Hughes stated that thst paragraph only addressed re�ional coopexstion. Mr. Harris stated that the parks situation would change if the rezoned some of the industrial land to residential� snd that was not addressed in this section, Ms. Htaghes atated that she had a statement that wovld add to the section on variety of recreation and acreage for a growing population and she would �ive it to them. Her statement Would fit into the Pirst paragraph. She stated her Co�ission would be looking at this on next Wednesday. PLANNING COhII�fI.5SI0N ME�TING, JLII.iC 11, 1�79 PA�E 13 i�3 ENVIRONh�NTAL RESOURCE PROTEC`i�LON AND MANIIGEMEPFP: Mr. Langenfe].d stated his Co�isaion would be discuasing this next Tuesday. He did want to point out that, in his personal opinion� the word "civilized outlook" in the third paragraph shouid be deleted. Ms. Hughes stated that she agreed and hsd changed that to ecolo�ical outlook. Mr. Langenfeld stated that he liked the 4th paragraph and the 5th paragraph. He stated that was nice if you could do it. Ms. Hughes atated tk�at one criticism she wovld have for this kind of section and the one on critical areas is that while she agrees you have to manage and control those words imply over-manage and over-control. Ma. Schnabel suggeated they use the worda preserve and protect. Atr. I�blon agreed and atated that in order to preserve or protect sanething� you have_to manage it. Ms. Schnabel atated that was implicit in thoae words. Mr. Hsrris referred to the first psragraph and stated that he felt that iro�n the word "since" on down they vere editorializing a little bit. He was not sure that applied to Fridley. Mr. Franzen agreed. Mr. Harris asked if Mr. Franzen felt they needed that statement. Mr. Franzen stated they probably didn't. Ms. Schnabel suggested the pages be numbered. #4 REVITALIZATION OF COAM9ERCIAL AREAS: Ms. Hughes stated that in the third paragraph} in the last line� the word "City" should be changed to "Centers". Also� in the fifth paragraph� second line, the words "shopping center" should be changed to "shopping area°. The Co�issioners concurred. Ms. Schnabel referred to the fourth paragraph regarding 53rd and T. H. 65, and she asked if it was a goal to go from Mississippi and T. H. 47 to 53� and T. H. 65 and start in thereY She suggested they leave that out.. Mr, Harris agreed and stated they should get some policy direction from Council on that bePore they include such a statement in here. PLANNING CO�SION MEETI[�Gs �Y �, �979 PAl3E 1�F Ms. ScLnobel statad there could be other areas that could have priority. Mr. Deblon stated they could change th#t to read "There are other areas that should be looked at". 1�. Harris stated that would be fine. Mr. Langenfeld rePerred to the last paragraph and suggested the words "under construction" be changed to "occupied". This was in regards to Village Green. Mr. fiarris agreed, #5 ADDITIONAL HOihSING� REHABILPPATSON� AND NEIGHBORHOOD PRESEEiVATION: The CorBnissioners discussed the queation of providing 2300 additionsl units as requeated by Metropolitan Council. It was suggested that StafY present the data in a clearer manner. Ms. Schttsbel felt it could be explained as follows: 2300 new construction 460 New subsidized units � �$10 new unsubsidized units (market rate) 480 new unsubsidized units 13�0 new subsidized units. Ms, Schnabel stated that Fridley alreec'�y had 1360 awbsidized units in its existing housing stock� but that was a diYferent 1360 From the Figure in the formula �iven above. Mr. Oquist recoaumended the first two paragraphs under this section in the Overview be rewritten with a clearer explanation. Me. Schnabel referred to the sixth pa-r�ravh in this section and stated that the laet sentence which refers to assistance £rom federal and�or state loans snd grants to homeo�mera� and stated that she read this to mean that the on],y ws�,y to rehabilitate �e �ousing s oc e y was o go the Eederal government or state, This bothered her because it'wgs really money out oP our pockets and also the idea that -- �fi3s was the attitude that this was the on],y way we could do it. Mr. Deblon stated they would try to reinforce private investment with public expenditvres. They did not feel that the state and federal would be a major role� although they will puraue it where they qualiPy. Nh�. Harris stated thst the intent of that money was to be seed money to get things �oing. We should not rely on that money. Mr. Deblon stated that low income people will seek the money rather than the average homeowner. b�. I,angenYeld stated tl�at the words "much oi the City" should not be in there. pLANNING COh�ISSION I�PING, JULY 11, 1979 - PAC3E 15 Mr, Iiarris atated this would apply mostly to rental units. Ms. Schnabel �sked that i£ so�one had a 10 unit apartment build3ng and they wanted to sell each unit off for $40�000 each� would that qualify for moderate income hous�ingY Ms. Hughes stated it would. Ms. Schnabel stated that could add to the number oP how max�y we could provide. She stated that could change their Yigures. Mr. Harris stated that could hurt us. IY those subsidized unit� are sold off as moderate income units� they would no longer be available as subsidized units. Ms. Schnabel suggested they pi.npoint in the inventory where the Section 8 units are in the City. Ms. Schnabel suggested they either take out the 6th paragraph in this eection of the Overview or they should rewrite it. If they rewrite it, they should maybe talk in terms of nelghborhoods� i,e. deteriorating nei�hborhoods receiving seed money� etc, Mr. Deblon referred to Item #1 u�er the Plan Direction of the Housing Sectim . 3'he etatement in the sixth paragraph was not consistent vith this statement and they would change the st&tement in the sixth psragraph-oP the Overview. �6 PROVISION OF ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF ZRANSIT: Ms. Hughea stated that they had sgreed to change the title to "TRANSPORTATION". Also,, she felt it was not clear where they discussed considering lateral move- ment or transit things. She would like a clearer statement regarding this. Mr. Harris referred to the discussion on the walkwsy�bikeway system. They should say something that would tie in with the overall metropolitan walkway�bikeway plan. Something to the effect should be included in the Qverview Section. MOTION by Ms. Hughes� seconded by Mr. Langenfeld� to conti.nue the discussion �C�prehensive Development Plan. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRidAN HARRIS DECLARED Ti� N�TION CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY. 8. CONTINiIEDD: PROPOSID CHANGES TO CHAPTEE2 205. ZOIdING: MYPION by Mr. Oquistr secm ded by Mr. LangenPeld� to continue the discussion on the proposed chan�ea to the zoning code. UPON A VOICE VOTEy AIS, VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRIS DECLARED TF1E MO'1'ION CARRIED UNANIMOpSLY. PLANNI� COMMIS3ION MEETING, �.x ]1„ 1979 PAGE 16 � 9. o� svs=rrESS: Mr. Deblon distTibuted a memo from Mr. Qureahi regarding the Central Center £or Fami].y Resources. MOTION by Mr. Langenfeld� seconded by N0. Sckmabel� to receive the memo from Mr, Qureshi regarding the Central Center for Family Resources. UPON A VOICE VOTE� AI,L VOTING AYE� CAAIRMAN HARI?IS DECLAk�ED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANINKIUSI�Y. Mr. Harris requested this item be placed on the next agenda. - - - - - - - - - � - - - - - - Mr. Harris stated that he had attended the meeting regarding the alley vacation request in $yde Park. The result of the meeting was that the City would help to solve the problem by providing the labor and attempt to �et some railroad ties Pro� the railroad and put the ties up as a barrier in the alley. They ta].ked to the apsrtment owner and the neighbors invalved and hopefully they promoted peace a� harmox�y in the neighborhood. He was not sure they still shouldn't vacate the alley� but Ms. Gabel did not want the vacation. He wovld like to see the City get rid of all unused eaaements� etc. and suggested they cpuld perhaps take an inventory o£ all unused egsements and get rid of them. �� � r ii� MOTION by Mr. Oquist� seconded by Mr. Langenfeld� to adjourn the July 11� i979, meet oY the Planni.ng Co�ission. UPON A VOICTs VOTE� AIS, VOTING AYE� CHAIRMAN HARRI3 DECLARID THE MEETING ADJOURPPIEID AT 11:l10 P.M. Respectfully submitted: ������ thy S ton, Recording Secretary