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PL 04/21/1982 - 30574� ti CITY OF FRIDLEY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 21, 1982 . CALL TO ORDER: Chairwoman Schnabel called the Apri1 21, 1982, Planning Commission meeting to order at 7:34 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Ms. Schnabel, Mr. Oquist, Ms. Gabel, Mr. Svanda, Mr. Kondrick, Ms, van Dan, Mr, Saba Members Absent: None Others Present: Jerrold Boardman, City Planner - Lloyd Pew, 1736 Hollywood Ave, N.E., Mp7s. Mrs. Louis Sandusky, 181 Sylvan Lane N.E. Vern Wilcox, 1400 First Bank Place East Jim Grover, 6950 France Ave. So. Bob Ferris, 1600 First Bank Place East John Luce, 6437 Tingdale Ave., Edina ,� Gary M. Weber, 923 - 125th Lane N.E. Richard Weispfenning, 1310 - 69th Ave. N.E. APPROVAL OF APRIL 4, 1982, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. SABA� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO APPROVE TXE APRIL 4� 1982� PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES. Ms. Schnabel stated that on page 2, paragraph 2, 4th line, the word "parlour" should be inserted after "massage". UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TNE MINUTES APPROVED AS AMENDED. 1. PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT SP #82-03 BY FIRST BANK SYSTEM ERN I COX: o a ow a 30 x site in enar s par ing ot to e used for an automatic teller machine in an enclosed building, Per Section 205.101, 3, I, of the Fridley City Code, on part of Lot 9, Auditor's Subdivision No. 94, the same being 5351: Centra] Ave. N.E. MOTIOAI BY MS. VAN DAN� SECOAIDED 8Y 1�2. KONDRICK� TO OPEN TXE PUBLIC HEARING ON SP #82-03 BY FI.RST BANK SYSTEM, VERN WILCOX. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:37 P.M. /"�, PLANNING COMMISSION �EETING, APRIL 21, 1982 PAGE 2 Mr. Boardman stated that because the automatic teller machine would be located in Menards' parking lot and is a lease structure that is not part of the main structure, it requires a special use permit. The petitioners are proposing that the bank site be located on an island area where the service drives goes around the front by the Menards' sign. This is a free-standing building wher-e people will park their cars, get out of their cars, and go into the building. There will be a sidewalk and landscaping around the who7e structure. The door faces south. He stated the people from First Bank System were at the meeiing to answer questions. Mr. Boardman stated that at the last meeting, the Planning Commission approved a nursery to be set up in the Menards' parking lot. He stated the City Council did approve it with the stipulation that those people work with City Staff in 7ocating the lot where there would be the least amount of conf7ict. The P]anning Commission had suggested the location in the southwest corner of the parking ]ot. Mr. Vern Wilcox, 1400 First Bank Place East, Mpls., stated he is the Assistant Vice President of First Bank System in charge of the Construction Division. Also at the meeting-Mr. Robert Ferris, Assistant Vice President of First Bank System in charge of the Electronic Banking Division and Mr. Jim Grover, an architect with Gene Hickey & Associates. Mr. Wilcox passed out a sheet giving a general overview of the services provided out of this building. Basical]y, it is an electronic banking machine that is capab"`� of dispensing cash, hand]ing deposits, checking account balances--basica7ly what a teller function would be in a regular bank. These machines are being cosponsored with First Bank System for the 17 First Bank System banks in the metropolitan area. In the future, these machines will have the capabi]ity of being shared with other banks, savings and loan unions, and financial institutions. Mr. Wi]cox stated it is a complete steel frame building with wood siding around three sides and glass around the vestibule. The unit is completely protected from a security standpoint by cameras and a7arm systems. On the front door, there is a small card access, and the same plastic card that activates the machine wi17 a]so activate the front door. The unit on the top is an all aluminum facia, and there are four signs 7ocated on the unit, one on each side. Mr. Wilcox stated they will be locating ten of these units in the Twin Cities area and the units will be serviced on a daily basis. They are presently taking about five contracts for maintenance of landscaping, lighting, genera7 cleaning of the building, filling the machines with cash, taking deposits out, and servicing the mechanical functions, He stated they have been operating in the 5-state area for about 50 years, and they are very concerned about maintenance and do not want these things to be run down. They have a pretty good reputation for good maintenance. Ms. Schnabel asked if there were any Fastbank Services in existence now in the Twin �ities area. � � PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 21, 1982 PAGE 3 Mr. Wilcox stated there was not, because this is a fairly new concept. The cash machine concept is one they have worked with for about 4-5 years. They have them located in their banks where they are called "24 Hr. First Banks". They are a]so in a few supermarkets throughout the Twin Cities area and other states and are labeled as "Fast Banks". Mr. Wilcox stated they now have permission from three other cammunities to 7ocate these bui]dings--Bloomington, Minneapolis at 53rd & Minnehaha, and Apple Va77ey. Fridley is the fourth. They are current]y negotiating with Roseville and St. Louis Park. � Mr. Oquist asked about parking and what they anticipate as a customer volume on a daily basis. He was concerned about sufficient parking, particu]arly during the times when Menards is busy, and the traffic flow out of the intersection. Mr. Wilcox stated that with the cash machine concept, most of their vo]ume will be after hours. Genera]ly, about 65% of their transactions occur from 6:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m, when banks are closed. They are estimating a maximum of 1,000 trans- actions per month when the machine has reached its fu77 potentia7, and that is 5-7 years from now. Mr. Wilcox stated their corporation, First Bank System, is probably one of the ^ very few that can afford to get into this kind of thing. It is very expensive, and he did not visua]ize very many banks or savings and loan operations getting these kinds of systems. Those banks will be buyir,g transaction time from thEm. � Ms, van Dan asked about security. This is a rather dark area for a bank to be located. Mr. Wilcox stated there are secu`rity ]ights located in the soffit that are designed to shine down around the bui]ding, so no one can linger around the building. On the underside of the ceiling, there are flourescent lights that light up the entire� vestibule on the inside. There:�s a video camera going 24 hrs. inside the building. There are alarms throughout the building that connect to a central station in St. Paul. There is a]so a telephone inside that wi]1 connect anyone to the same security station in St. Paul. Ms. Schnabe] asked about vandalism. Mr. Wilcox stated they have operated the cash machine.network in the Twin Cities area for about 4-5 years, and they have had no serious problems with vandalism or anyone being attacked. Mr. Saba asked if they had looked at the parking situation and access to that area of the parking lot during rush hour traffic. Mr. Wilcox stated they had, and they were not concerned with rush hour, because their volume has been during the non-rush hour periods. ' PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIC 21, 1982 � PAGE 4 ^ Ms. Schnabel asked how they selected this site. Mr. Wilcox stated they did a marketing study of the entire Twin Cities area. Thirty-five percent of the population in the Twin Cities area are First Bank customers, so they tried to identify those areas in the Twin Cities where they felt they were not servicing their customers adequately. He stated they draw a 7ot of customer base from this area, and this s�te came up as one possible site location. Mr. Robert Ferris stated their #1 criteria is accessibility and visibility. By law, they must be ]ocated in a retail premise or a shopping ma71 or adjoining mall area. When 7ooking at the metropolitan area, the 694 area in this quadrant was not served by this type of banking concept as well as it should be. Onee in that quadrant, they ]ooked for accessibi]ity and visibility. Menards was a willing landlord, and they fe7t it was more serviceable and visib]e than-the area down by Target, which was also a possible site. • Ms. Gabe] asked about the lease arrangement with Menards. Mr. Ferris stated it is a 3-year lease with two options of three more years each, for a total of nine years. He stated they feel it will take three years to build a presence in the market. If, after three years, they feel it is not doing the job, they would probably take it out. � Mr. Wilcox stated the building is completely portable. It is manufactured in New Mexico, brought here in one piece, and put down on a permanent foundation. If something should happen and they would want to switch locations, they can pick up the building and relocate it. . Ms. Gabel asked when they expected the Firstbank Service to be oeprational. Mr. Wilcox stated that. assuming it is approved by the Planning Commission and City Counci�, they would probably have it operational by the middle of June. Mr. Boardman asked what kind of utility service they would need. Mr. Wilcox stated their network lines are primarily data lines and communication �ines. They need a telephone connection and an electrical connection. They have met with Northwestern Bell and will be meeting with NSP. All the lines wi71 be underground. Mr. Wilcox stated the building is accessib]e to the handicapped. They have an agreement with Menards to have two reserved parking stalls, but he did not think they needed to earmark one of the stalls for handicapped. He stated they do not anticipate more than two people in the building at one time. MOTIDN BY MR. OQUIST� SECONDED BY MS. GABEL� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC XEARING ON SP #82-03 BY FIRST BANK SYSTEM. � UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARII+IG CLOSED AT 8e09 P.M. n PLANNING COMMISSION �EETING, APRIL 21, 1982 PAGE 5 Mr. Oquist stated he did not see any problem with this building. It will be maintained well, and he did not think the traffic flow would be a prob]em. Ms. Gabe] stated she was a]ittle concerned about traffic flow, because evenings and weekends are peak times for that area and intersection. Ms. Schnabel stated she a7so shared Ms. Gabel's concerns abou� traffic. Each time something is added to this area, a little more traffic is added.. � Ms. Gabel stated� there was probably a need for this type of banking system, and she had a prob]em with denying this request when at the 7ast meeting they approved something that was temporary. This system seems fairly well established and will probably stay there. ` MOTION BY MR. OQUIST, SECONDED BY 1NR. KONDRICK, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERMIT� SP �82-03� BY FIRST BANK SY5TEM� VE,RN WILCOX� TO ALLOW A 30' X 40' SITE IN MENARDS' PARKING LDi' TO BE U5ED FOR AN AUTOMATIC TEL7JER MACHINE IN AN ENCLOSED BUILDING� PER SECTION 205.101� 3� I� OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE, ON PART OF LOT 9, AUDITOR�S SUBDIVISION NO. 94, THE SAME BEING 535Z CENTRAL AVENUE N.E. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHAIABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED ^ UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. Schnabel stated SP #82-03 was recommended to City Council for approval and would go.to City Council on May 3. 2. PUBLIC HEARING: SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SP #82-04, MEDTRONIC, GARY WEBER: Per Section 205. 31, 3, , , of the Fri ey City Co e, to a ow t e installation of a 158' radio communications antenna, on Parcel 6600, located in the South Half of Section 12, the same being 6972 Central Avenue N.E. MOTION BY MR. OpUIST� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO OPEN THE.PUBLIC HEARIAIG ON SP #82-04 BY MEDTRONIC� GARY WEBER. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARI111G OPEN AT 8:16 P.M. Mr. Boardman stated Medtronic is located off 69th and Old Central. The request is to put up a radio communications antenna. In the City Code under M Districts, a special use permit is required for microwave or transmission towers. This is not really a transmission tower, but it is for transmitting--a kind of radio tower. As far as meeting the comprehensive plan as far as air space, there are no problems as long as a tower is be]ow the 200 ft. level. Mr. �oardman stated representatives from Medtronic were at the meeting to answer any questions. Mr. Gary Weber stated he is Medtronic's Corporate Security Manager. He stated ^ the tower is part of a communications system very similar to what'police departments use. It is a UHF frequency. What they propose to use it for is to dispatch PLANNING COMMISSION �EETING, APRIL 21,'1982 � "� ��� "__ ' � � � PAGE 6 n emergency response teams in their facilities. These teams are trained to deal with fire, personal injury, medical cases, and severe medica] cases, such as heart attacks. They would use the system to contact these people and have them respond to the area and take care of the emergency until outside professional people could arrive. In addition, they need it for security officers who are on patrol in the facilities. This particular antenna would a71ow them to be in contact with the security offices and emergency response teams, not only on this site, but in their seven other sites. He stated that once the new building is completed and fully occupied, they will have 2,500 people on site, so they are very concerned about the safety of those peop7e. Mr. Oquist asked if the operation proposed for this antenna wou]d cause any neighborhood radio interference. Mr. John Luce stated he is the engineering consultant for Medtronic. He stated the question of radio frequency interference was one which Medtronic was very concerned about. They have done some radio frequency studies to make sure they do not create intermodulation. harmonics, and that kind of thing. This is relatively a low powered device and is quite comparab]e at the antenna to a 60 watt light bult. He stated the FCC has certified this type of equipment. There is a lot of history to go on with these towers, and they do not anticipate any problems. Mr. Richard Weispfenning, ]310 - 69th Ave. N.E., stated he is a close neighbor �, to Medtronic. He stated he was quite aware of tMe way Medtronic has designed their building on that 7ocation. It is very well integrated into that setting which is fairly natural. He wondered if there were any specia] construction techniques or other considerations when specifying the location of that tower so it blends in the best it can with that natura7 setting. Mr. Weber stated the reason they selected this location was to hide the antenna as much as possible. Mr. Luce stated the tower is made of galvanized steel, so it has a silver look with a dull finish. He stated they cannot hide a radio tower, but it is going to be far less obvious-than the power transmission �ines that are 100 yards to the north. MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY A?R. SABA� TO CLOSE.THE PUBLIC HEARING ON SP #82-04 BY MEDTROIVIC. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED T8E PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 8:45 P.M. MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SABA� TO RECOMINEND TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE PERA9IT, SP �82-04, ME.DTRONIC, GARY WEBER� PER SECTION 205.131� 3� A� (7)� OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE� TO ALLOW TXE TNSTALLATTON OF A 158' RADIO COMMUNICATIDNS ANTENNA� ON PARCEL 6600� ZACATED IN THE SOUTH HALF OF SECTION 12� TAE SAME BEING 6972 CENTRAL AVEATUE N.E. � PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 2], 1982 PAGE 7 r-�, Mr. Kondrick stated he felt this was well planned and thought out by Medtronic. Mr. Saba stated the who]e purpose of this antenna is for the safety and the welfare of the Medtronic employees. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CAAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TAE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. Schnabel stated SP #82-04 was recommended to City Council for approval and would go to City Council on May 3. 3. RECEIVE APRIL 1, 1982, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: �IOTION BY MS. VAN DAN� SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK� TO RECEIVE THE �YPRIL l� 1982� HUMAN RESDURCES COMMISSION MINU�'ES. . Ms. van Dan stated the biggest thing the Commission is invo�ved in right now is the accessibility survey. The Accessibility Project Committee has compiled the survey form. A cover letter has been written by the Mayor and the chair- person of the project comnittee has written a letter. These letters will go with the survey forms to 175 facilities. She stated this committee is a very actiYe.committee. ,-�, Ms. Schnabel stated that before this project committee has finished this project, the Planning Conanission should, in some way, express their appreciation. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CXAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECI�ARED THE MQTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 4. RECEIVE APRIL 8, 1982, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECOIUDED BY MR. 5ABA� TD RECEIVE THE APRIL 8� 1982� HOUSING & REDEVELOPMEIVT AUTHORITY MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VO1'E, ALL VOTING AYE� CAAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED THE MOTIDN CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY. 5. RECEIVE APRIL ]3, 1982, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. GABEL, SECONDED BY A�t. KONDRICK� TO RECEIVE THE APRI.L I3, 1982� APPEALS COMMISSION MINi1TES. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTIi1�G AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED T8E MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 6. RECEIVE APRIL 6, 1982, PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY A�2. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECEIVE THE APRII� 6� 1982� ^ PARKS & RECREATION C01NN125SION. MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTI111G AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABE.L DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 21. ]982 _ PAGE 8 f-� Mr. Kondrick stated the Parks & Recreation Commission made a motion on page to recommend to �ity Council the approval of the 1982 summer activity fee schedule. He stated this is basically a]0� increase over last year, so it a nominal increase. MOTION BY 1�t. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MS. VAN DAN, TO CDIVCUR WITH THE PARKS & RECREATIDN COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE TAE 1982 PARKS & RECREATION SUMMER ACTTVITY FEE SCXEDULE. »� is Ms. Schnabel stated she would like Mr. Kondrick to find out the procedure used by the Parks & Recreation Department for waiving fees for those people who cannot afford to pay for the city's programming. UPON A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TAE MOTIDN CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Kondrick stated that becasue there were 12 men's teams that were on a waiting list because no fields were available, the Commission had also made a motion recommending that City Council anprove a Sunday night league at Commons Park, which would run from appr.ox. 5:00-8:00 p.m. He stated he had no problem with a Sunday night league with those hours. Mr. Saba stated he had a rea] problem with Sunday night leagues. He stated he lives in this neighborhood, and he felt the people deserved some peace and quiet ,� in the neighborhood on Sunday evening. Ms. Gabel stated she a7so sympathized with the neighbors and felt they deserved a night of quiet. They put up with the noise a17 summer long. She stated she could appreciate the enthusiasm on the part of those.peop]e who want to play softball, but she also felt they had a responsibility to the people in that neighborhood. She stated it should be postponed one more year when the community park will be available. She stated she would vote against a Sunday night ]eague. MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK TO CONCUR WITH THE PARKS & RECREATIDN COMMISSION'� �G MMENDATION TO CITY CDUNCIL TO APPROVE A SUNDAY NIGHT LEAGUE. The Motion died for lack of a second. Mr. Kondrick stated Dr. Boudreau had stated these teams could be divided between Commons Park and Locke Park. Ms. Gabel stated she wou7d not have a problem with a Sunday night league at Locke Park as the bal7fie]ds are more isolated from the homes. MOTION BY MS. GABEL� SECONDED BY A�. SVANDA� TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT IF A SUNDAY NIGHT LEAGUE IS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL� THE LEAGUE BE ZIMITED ONLY TO LOCKE PARK, AND NOT BE ALLOWED IN COMMONS PARK. UPO1V A VOICE VOTE� ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRWOMAN SCXNABEL DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. �^_�1 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, APRIL 21, 1982 PAGE 9 ADJOURNMENT: MOTION BY MR. OpUSST, SECONDED BY MR. KONDR.ZCK, TO ADJDURN TAE MEETING. UPON A VDICE VOTE� ALL VOTIIVG AYE, CHAIRWQMAN SCHNABEL DECLARED TBE APRIZ 21� I982� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:35 P.M. Respectfully subm'tted, i yn Saba Recording Secretary � ,n