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PL 06/24/1987 - 30666CITY OF FRIDLEY '� PLANNING COMMISSIOPJ P�EETING, JUNE 24, 1987 CALL TO ORDER: Chairperson Billings called the June 24, 1987, Planning Commission meeting to order at 7:33 p.m. ROLL CALL: Members Present: Steve Billings, Dave Kondrick, Dean Saba, Sue Sherek, Alex Barna, Richard Svanda Members Absent: None Others Present: Jim Robinson, Planning Coordinator Jim &Kay McCulloch, 6185 Heather Place Tom � Marge Brickner, 6199 Heather Place Dennis Schneider, City Council Cheryl Schneider, 6190 Stinson Blvd. Ione Swanson, 6064 Woody Lane Kelvin Retterath, Richfield Norman Brody, Brody Associates, Inc. Allen Kimbal], rep. Northwest Racquet & Swim Club ,� Scott Kohanek, 6116 Central Ave. Richard Mochinski, 27540 Kirby Ave., Chisago City, Mn. APPRUVAL OF JUNE 3, 1987, PLANNING COM��ISSION MINUTES: MOTION� BY MR. KO11lDRICK, SECONDED BY Mv�". 5HEREK, TO APPROVE THE JUNE 3� ]987, PLANIVING COMMISSI0111 MINUTES AS WRITTEN. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECI�ARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY. Mr. Billings stated he wanted to express his and the Commission's thanks to Daryl P�lorey, Planning Assistant, who had filled in for Mr. Robinson at the last meeting. He stated Mr. Morey was very organized and did a very nice job. 1. PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDERATION OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT, P.S. #87-06, • SHOREWOOD PLAZA, BY ST. A THONY VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER, INC.: enera y ocate sout o est oore a e rive, east o ig ay 65, north of Moore Lake and west of Central Avenue. (�'he full legal description is on file with the City Clerk and is available to the publ�ic and was furnished at the Planning Commission meeting.) MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MS. SHEREK, TO WAIVE THE FORMAL READING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE AIVD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAI.RPE.RSON BILLIIVGS DECLARED THE MOTION � G^ARRIED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AT 7:34 P.M. PLANNIPJG COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 2 ;� Mr. Robinson stated there were two developers in the audience, Norman Brody of Brody Associates, Inc., the project constructors of the commercial center, and Northwest Racquet & Swim Clubs, represented by Allen Kimball and Kelvin Retterath. Mr. Robinson stated there were three official re uested actions: (1) the platting of approximately 21 acres of property; �2) a special use permit for the construction of a parking lot in what is now an obsolete flood plain; and (3) the vacation of 1.7 acres of city properLy now��eld for drainage purposes. Mr. Robinson stated the purpose was to construct a multi-use commercial building which will be 55,625 sq, ft. and a racquet & swim club which will be 180,000 sq. ft. Mr. Robinson stated the plat consisted of three lots--approximately 6.4 acres for the commercial center, 13.7 acres for the racquet and swim club, and 2.75 acres for the existing Sears property which was being platted as a separate parcel (also owned by Brody Associates}. Mr. Robinson stated the existing land use and zoning showed the property as predominately C-3 (generall shopping center, the highest commercial zoning) and a small area which was zoned as a PUD zone in 1966 by the City Council. �.� The fourth item on the agenda dealt with Planning Commission consideration of this plan as a master plan development under the PUD for that portion of the development. Mr. Robinson stated Staff has researched the Comprehensive Plan related to this proposal and has found that the 1990 Land Use Pnap shows that this location is designated as S-2 or redevelopment district. This was consistent with the NRA's activity in this area whereby they established a redevelopment district under Section 462 of the Minnesota State Statutes. The S-2 zoning called for a mixed use development, and Staff feels this proposed property usage would be consistent with �hat 1990 designation. Mr. Robinson stated as far as utilities, there was a 24-inch storm sewer existing on the west end of the site which connects to a city swail which drains under Highway 65 to an existing ditch and then runs north to Rice Creek where it discharges. That storm sewer line will be used in conjunction with the new planning scheme devised by the developer. Mr. Robinson stated there was an 8-inch sanitary sewer line which transects the site and runs �orth to a lift station on Central Avenue. Currently, the Engineering Department is investigating whether or not the 8-inch line and lift station are adequate to meet the needs of the development. Mr. Robinson stated there was a 12-inch water line in Central Avenue and an 8-inch water main �� Rice Creek Road which should be sufficient to meet the needs of the project. �� PLANNING COP�IISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 3 �� Mr. Robinson.stated a traffic analysis for the site shows that in 1984, traffic counts were���done on Rice Creek Road, There were 3,600 cars per day just west of Central Avenue and 5,400 cars per day close to Highway 65. Projections by the developer are 500 cars per day for the commercial center and 1,000 cars per day for the racquet and swim club. Utilizing 1.2 persons per vehicle, this would result in an increase of 2,500 cars per day on Rice Creek Road. Mr. Robinson stated that in conjunction with the development, the City has devised a new roadwav system for Rice Creek Road. Starting on Central, there will be a�new�thru ri�ht hand turn lane off Central for southbound traffic. The idea was to divert traffic off Central Ave, north of Rice Creek Road. There will also be installed two through lanes, go�r►q east.and west on, Rice Creek Road � to facilitate additional traffic. A central median will also be installed with landscaping. There will be protected left turn lanes at all major driveway openings. At the corner of Highway 65/Rice Creek Road, there will be three lanes, one right turn lane, one through or left turn lane, and one strictly left turn lane. Also, part of the proposal was to close off the service road which presently dumps very close to the intersection at Highway 65, which was considered a dangerous situation by the Public•Works Department. That service road will be closed, vacated, and the developer of the new shop- ping center who also owns the existing shopping center will utilize that street for additional parking. There will also be no curb cuts on Central � Avenue for the development. Mr. Robinson stated the developer.has put together a drainage plan and it was on the Rice Creek Watershed District agenda that evening so by the following day they should have an indication of.whether or not this would be approved. As far as.ather environmental review`s, the�e has been consideration oF the project by both the DNR and the Army Corps of Enganeers. The Army Corps of Engineers has determined that although there are �imited valu� wetlands on the site, they could come under a national permit by the Army Corps of Engineers. The DNR reviewed the site and they have no problem with the proposed plans. Mr. Robinson stated that upon completion of the project, there will be extensive landscaping to screen the development from the residential area, both to the south and to some extent to the north, and heavy screening of the parking. Mr. Robinson stated in terms of zoning compliance, the pr-oposal was consistent with the C-3 zoning. The racquet and swim club was proposing 414 stalls. In conjunction with that, Staff has done a significant.amount of research with other cities and their codes related to health and racquet club facilities and have found a wide degree of variance on how they treat these types of facilities. In reviewing the various clubs owned by the proposed developer, it was sf�own that the Fridley proposal would actually be at the top of the scale regarding the parking provided at other facilities. They have used the ratio of 2.3 cars of pa:^king per 1,000 sq, ft. of gross floor area, which ^ was adequate. PLANNIIJG CO�MISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 4 i� Mr. Robinson stated tf�e setbacks for the racquet and swim club would be 80 ft. from Old Central which meets code and 50 ft. from abutting residential property which also meets code. That will also be heavily landscaped. Mr. Robinson stated the commercial center north of the racquet and swim club will also be set back 80.ft. from Old Central and approximately 100 ft. from Rice Creek Road. They are proposing 296 parking stalls with 278 stalls required by code. This was based on the requirement of 1 stall per 200 sq. ft. of floor area. for a speculative mixed use commereia] building. Mr. Robinson stated Staff was recom�rending the following stipulations. He believed the developers were in agreement with all or most of the stipulations. �,- PLAT REQUIREMENTS 1. Developer agrees to provide an additional 15 feet of right-of-way along the south of Moore Lake Drive (incorporated on preliminary plat). 2. Developer agrees to provide a 10 foot bikeway/walkway easement in addition to and south of the additional 15 feet of right-of-way (see stipulation #1 - incorporated on preliminary plat). 3. Developer agrees to provide additional bikeway/walkway easement, 15 feet �; in width, all along west and south of Lot 2, Block 2, to provide access from Moore Lake Drive to Moore Lake. 4. Developer agrees to provide a separate street easement on the north side of Moore Lake Drive - on the south of the existing Shorewood Shopping Center parcel. Easement to be 15 feet in width along the western 2/3 of the site and tapering to-�1 at the east end. Provide prior to recording plat. 5. Developer agrees to pay for any utility relocations or improvements necessitated by development. 6. All necessary utility easements to be incorporated on plat. 7. A park fee, estimated at $23,451, to be paid prior to recording plat. Exact amount based on surveyed square footage multiplied by .023. 8. Joint driveway and parking agreements to be recorded between and against Lot 1, Block 1, Lot l, Block 2, and Lot 2, Block 2, Shorewood Plaza prior to building permits being issued. 9. Northwest Racquet Swim and Health Clubs, Inc., agree to provide additional parking through satellite parking lots or ramp construction sufficient to meet demand should Planning Commission and City Council determine there is a shortage which cannot be managed or mitigated and which is determined by the City to be detrimental to the health, safety, and general welfare �� of the area at large. PLANNIPJG COMI�IISSION MEETING, ,JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 5 � � B - STORM DRAINAGE REQUIREMENTS 1. Final plat approval subject to Rice Creek Watershed District and City approval of storm drainage plan. 2. Pond design to provide for well drained sodded pond areas. No standing water allowed. 3. A pond maintenance agreement to be provided by developers, approved by Staff and recorded prior to building permits being issued. 4. Ponding at the existing Shorewood Plaza to be redesigned to allow for proposed parking layout. Redesign of pond to be approved by City Engineer. C - SITE DEVELOPP�ENT 1. Shared central entry drive on Moore Lake Drive to be divided by a land- - scaped median and provide for two exiting lanes. 2. Most easterly driveway at proposed commercial center to be right in and right out only and signed as "No truck exit". 3. Existing most westerly entry drive at existing Shorewood Shopping Center to be closed with remode]ing (incorporated on Master Plan). 4. Major entry drive at the existing Shorewood Shopping Center to be divided by a landscaped median and provide for two exiting lanes. 5. Developer to improve parking lot for existing Shorewood Shopping Center as shown on Master Plan dated June 15, 1987, upon vacation of Highway 65 servi ce road. 6. All dumpsters for prQposed developments to be contained within brick enclosures with opaque screening gates; design and location subject to staff approval. 7. All electrical connections to new developments to be underground. 8a All utility meters on proposed developments to be screened from view. 9. A coordinated lighting plan to be submitted, prior to final Council approval, for both proposed developments. Lightfng cor�ponent styles to be matching for both projects and compatible with proposed Fridley street light standarde D - ARCHITECTURAL REFINEMENTS 1. Facade materials for the commercial center and the health/racquet club to �'�`` be of the same brick, pre-finished metal and accent striping as indicated on elevation submittals. PLANNIfJG COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987.. PAGE 6 � 2. Non-brick masonry restricted to service area on the 5outh of the commercial center only. 3. Existing Shorewood Shopping Center to be renovated with new signage band compatible with proposed center as indicated in developer's narrative (included in agenda). 4. Color samples of facade materials for all three projects to be submitted for staff review prior to building permits. 5. No overhead doors allowed on proposed commercial center. E - LAfdDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS 1. Landscape plans for both sides of Moore Lake Drive to be refined to provide for a more coordinated design. 2. All parking lot island landscaping to be consistent with two trees and an appropriate number and type of shrubbery for each island. 3. Ponding area north of Moore Lake Drive to be included in landscape revision. ,,.�; 4. Additional parking lot screening to be provided on west sides of '' existing Shorewood Shoppi.ng Center parking lot and-on west side of Sears parking lot. 5. Items 1- 4 to be incorporated on revised landscape and submitted for staff approval prior to final Council approval. . 6o All green areas for existing and proposed development to have automatic lawn sprinkling. Includes Sears and existing Shorewood Shopping Center. 7. Irrigation stubs for proposed street center islands to be provided by developers. Locations to be coordinated with City Engi-neer. Mr. Barna stated that he would be concerned too high a berming. on the parking lot islands and entry and exit ways, about a traffic hazard by too dense a landscaping or Mr. Robinson stated there would be a visual safety zone on each of the driveways which was basically a 25 ft. triangle specified by code, and there would be no berming or plant material on those areas which would block visibility. Ms. Sherek asked if someone did a parking ratio on the U.S. Swim & Fitness facility because of the problems with parking at that facility, and how did that compare with this racquet and swim facility? PLANNIf�G COM��ISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 7 ��' Mr. Rbbinson stated it was not exactly fair to compare the two facilities, because inside the racquet and swim club there were eight tennis courts and numerous racquet ball courts.which take up a lot of floor area. The tennis courts alone were 55,000 sq, ft, so there was an enormous ar�ount of playing area that only a few people at a time will be utilizing. They did look at the U.S. Swim &.Fitness facility, and there is approximately 30,000 sq, ft. of floor area and just about 100 cars. Mr. Saba stated he would be concer�ned about additional run-off because of the taking away of green space, and the adequacy of the storm sewers and sanitary sewers. Mr. Robinson stated Staff was concerned about this also, and a studyaas under way by the Engineering Dept. As far as additional run-off, there was an existing holding pond the City maintains on the center of the site. The developer will have to replace that capaci.ty plus provlde cap�city fo r all of their run-off. The Rice Creek Watershed District was reviewing those drainage plans to see if the develop�r has been successful in doing that. Mr. Saba stated there was mention in the stipulations of a 10 ft. bikeway/ walkway easement along Rice Creek Road. Then, there was also mention of a 6 ft, walkway path. If there was a 10 ft. easement, why not make a 10 ft. path? There was a lot of foot traffic generated by the schools for jogging and running during the school season. r�, `' Mr. Robinson stated the standard was an 8 ft. path--6.ft, of green space.with street lighting, then t�� 8 ft. path, and 14 ft. of landscaped screening. He stated that could be looked at again and they would have room to expand to 10 ft. if necessary. Ms. Sherek asked how far the eastern-most driveway by the existing shopping center was from the intersection at Old Central/Rice Creek Road. I�r. Robinson stated it was approximately 190 ft. Ms. Sherek stated she has always felt that spot.was very bad as far as visibility. She was very concerned with the landscaping providing limited visibility to the left for people exiting. She thought some kind of condi- tion needed to be created there so there was either a separate lane for people to turn right into, that was not part of the ordinary traffic lane, or that the 1 andscapi ng near that curve be: -.el.imi na��d so th�are .i s a cl ear view to the left. Mr. Robinson stated Ms. Sherek's point and Mr. Barna's point about visibility were well taken, and would be taken into consideration when they are doing the revision. Ms. Sherek st�t�d in the stipulations it stated there.would be no overhead doors. Was that no overhead doors on the exposed side or nor�e on the service side either? /�` PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIfJG, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 8 � Mr. Robinson stated Mr. Brody could answer that question, but he believed there would be no overhead doors at all. I�r. Billings stated that regarding Stipulation C-7, it stated that all electrical connections to new development would be underground. What about the telephone lines? Would they be underground also? Mr. Robinson stated that if one utility goes undergrour�d, they all go under- ground. That included cable TV lines. Mr. Billings suggested that C-7 be changed to read: "All utilit� connections to new developments to be underground." Mr. Norman Brady stated he was President of Brody Associates, one of the developers of the Moore Lake Commons project. He stated that last October they purchased the existing Shorewood Plaza. At that time, it was their intention to upgrade the shop:p,ing center, and they had an additional 21 acres on which they are proposing this new development. At a brainstorming meeting, they decided on various uses and the one they settled on was to approach a health and racquet club facility to see if this would be an appropriate site for such a facility. They went to what they felt was the premier health club in the Twin Cities area and were very pleased when these people responded favorably to the proposal. Since then, they have been working with Staff to develop a comprehensive plan which they feel will benefit the City and be in keeping with the development which is also going in on the southwest corner of Moore Lake (the old drive-in site). Mr. Brody stated the entire development, upon completion, is going to be renamed Moore Lake Commons and will be composed of four buildings-- the existing Shorewood Plaza of 65,000 sq, ft., the Sears building of 25,000 sq, ft., the racquet and swim club building of 180,000 sq. ft., and the commercial building of approximately 55,000 sq. ft. As to the existing Shorewood Plaza, they intend to renovate it by putting on a new canopy to modernize the appear- ance of the building and a new sign band to pres�nt uniform signage. As the leases come up for renewal, they will be inserting new sign criteria which, over the course of years, will result in uniform signage. This will be in keep- ing with what they intend for the new building which will have similar sign criteria. In addition, they intend to resurface the parking lot of the existing Shorewood Plaza and put in new plantings. This phase did not require City approval, but they were telling the Commission for informational purposes. Mr. Brody showed drawings of the Shorewood Plaza renovation phase, and he showed the elevations of the new mixed-use building which was proposed adja- cent to the racquet and swim club. Mr. Brody stated he would like to address some of the issues of concern to the Planning Commission and the neighbors. He stated the service ar.eas for their portion of the project will be between their building and the racquet and swim club and also behind the building. This entire area will be screened by �"� the racquet and swim club itself or by plantings located al.ong Central Ave. The various stores will be serviced by 3 ft. doors for their service entrance. PLANNING COMMISSIOP� MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 9 ,�. � Some tenants might require larger entrances w�ere they will have two 3 ft. doors together which will swing open for a 6 ft. entrance. They feel because of the depth of the stores (55 ft. and 75 ft.), they will be cater- ing to smaller tenants that will not have larQe trucks servicing them. Mr. Brody stated the trash enclosures will be screened from view as reflected in the stipulations. They will have parking spaces adjacent to the building and along the landscaped areas. The back area will be used for employee parking to the office on the second flo�r. This will be accomplished by having a walkway which runs from front to back through the first floor of the office section so.employees can park in back and-utilize the entrance and take the elevator to the second floor. Patrons will be parking in front of the facility. Mr. Brody stated they have worked with Staff to establish a uniform method of ingress and egress to the facility through a joint driveway and then safety valves for additional exits to the nort� and to the southwest. Mr. Brody stated that as mentioned by Mr. Robinson9 the storm drainage plan had been submitted to the Rice Creek Watershed District and was subject to the Rice Creek Watershed District approval. I� there are any changes or any suggestions for improvement, they will comply with those conditions. Mr. Brody stated they ,� they have worked with ' the area. They will visibility. ��� have attempted to have a uniform landscaping plan. Staff and support Staff in their efforts to dress up cert�inly address the Commission's concerns about Mr. Brody reviewed the site lighting plan. Mr. Brody stated that.because of any concerns from the neighborhood of what they wo�ld be seeing, they have prepared a drawing showing the cross section view of what the profile of the building would look like f rom different areas. Mr. Brody stated they have tried to do their best in making a uniform, first- class project that will benefit Fridley and be a showplace.for Fridley. He stated they are very happy to be in Fridley and would welcome any questions from the Planning Commission and the audience. Mr. Brody introduced Allen Kimball who was representing the Northwest Racquet and Swim Club. Mr. Kimball stated he was with 14�R Architects, the architects for Northwest Racquet and Swim Club. He stated they own ten clubs throughout the metro- politan area. Presently, they are constructing a similar size to the Fridley one at Eden Prairie at I-494 and Baker Road. One of the other clubs they own is located in Brooklyn Center on Highway 100 at France Ave. The qualities and finishes of the new clubs will be similar to the one in Brooklyn Center, although the Fridley and Eden Prairie clubs will have two stories only. The Brooklyn Center club has three stories. The two floors seems to make the club flow a little bit better, and it seems to lay out as a better plan. r'"� �� PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 10 Mr. Kimball stated the club entrance itself was on the west elevation. They control the main ent�ance to the club, specifii.ca�ly becaus� it is a priva�e club by membership only. A11 the cfi-ub�_.are reciprocal where a member can use any of the cl ubs. Mr. Kimball described the facility from the different elevations. Mr. Kimball stated that Northwest Racquet and Swim Club owners were sticklers for landscaping and grooming, both on the exterior and on the interior. Mr. Kimball described the layout of the inside of the facility. He stated that in addition they have five exterior tennis courts that will not be lighted and will be for day use only. They also show an exterior swimming pool. They have one under construction at Eden Prairie, and if it is accepted well, they will be building one at the Fridley site. Mr. Billings stated 414 parking stalls were proposed for the racquet and swim club. Did they believe that was adequate parking based..on the 381 stalls at the Brooklyn Center club which was similar in size to the Fridley club? Mr. Kimball stated they believed it was adequate parking, and the� woul,d hav� no problem with the stipulatian for more parkinq if it was found necessary. Ms. Sherek asked if there was any signage planned for tenant� who want signage on the outside to identify themselves on the Rice Creek Road and Central Avenue sides. Mr. Brody stated there would be no signage on Central Avenue. All the signage would be on the front of the buildings. Ms. Sherek asked if that was realistic in terms of the types of tenants he was expecting to attract. Retai7 tenants are going to want to be identified on the traffic side. Mr. Brody stated Central Avenue was a traffic side, but Rice Creek Road was also a traffic side, and they can control that with their sign criteria. What the City was requiring limited their signage to only the front of the building. Mr. Robinson stated because this was a multi-tenant building, there must be a comprehensive sign plan approved by the City before �hey can get a sign permit. Mr. Brody stated they feel with a common name for the whole project, Moore Lake Commons, that the people they are trying to attract will I��ow where Moore Lake Commons is. They are trying to have a name that people can identify as the racquet and swim club and the various tenants they will have in the building. '"`� Mr. Saba asked if there were any plans to upgrade the Sears building. Mr. Brody stated they have preliminary plans which will add a blue canopy to the entrance. However, most of the work was being directed to the larger Shorewood Plaza area. PLANNIfJG COMMISSION MEETING,JUNE 24, 198Z PAGE 11 � . Mr. Billings asked Mr. Brody if it was his intent that when the lease with Sears is up that he would be negotiating with Sears or any future tenant to try to upgrade the building and ti:e it in with the other project. Mr. Brody stated that at the time the Sears lease is up, they will be amenable to doing some_majpr renovation. As such with the nature of the Sears rent, it was not economically feasible at this time to do much improvement. Mr. Saba asked if there was any plan to provide a bicycle parking area at the racquet and swim club. Mr. Brody stated he believed the clubs do provide for bicycle parking. Mr. Barna asked if there was going to be a pylon sign. Mr. Brody stated there would be a pylon sign and a monument or ground sign identifying the��praject and directing traffic to the entrance. Mr. Barna stated that regarding Central Avenue, Mr. Brody had ind�cated there was a retaining wall because of the high grade. How high was that retaining wall? �..., Mr. Brody stated he believed at the high point, the retaining wall was 3-4 ft. and then it gradually tapered off. Mr. Barna stated he would be very concerned about a person being dropped off on Central Avenue and running through the green area and then the danger of falling over the 3 ft. drop. People are going to go through this way, whether the residents like it or not. Mr. Robinson stated the code.would require some type of railing if there is more than a 36-inch drop. �fir. Brody stated they might be able to address that concern by possibly providing some kind of pedestrian path along there to direct people through that area. Mr. Billings stated the comment by Mr. Barna that people are going to go through there anyway was probably a valid comment, but he questioned whether they want to encourage any pedestrian traffic through there from Central Ave. Ms. Sherek stated an alternative would be to put extremely dense shrubbery along there. Mr. Barna stated people are being dropped off on_University Avenue, both north and south-bound to cross University to get to the U.S. Swim & Fitness facility. That was what triggered his concern for a similar situation here. Mr. Brody stated it would be better to have a walkway than to have a structure that people are going to go over anyway. PLANNIfdG COMMISSION.M�ETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 12 �"� Mr. Barna stated the City might want to consider having a passenger drop-off area on Central Avenue to prevent the stopping of traffic or� Central Avenue. Mr. Robinson stated they are trying to discourage any use of Central Avenue in relation to this project. Mr. Barna stated the City should either take precautions so the area is completely blocked-with no access or provide some safe access. Mr. Jim McCulloch, 6185 Heather Place, asked about the hours of the racquet and swim club, and what kind of security would there be during the evening hours? Mr. Kimball stated the hours would be 7 a.m. to 12 p.m. He stated there was a third-shift maintenance crew who did all the cleaning and also watched the grounds. He stated they have not had any problems with vandalism at any of their other clubs. The tennis courts will be enclosed with 12 ft. high tennis fence, and the swimming pool will be enclosed. Mr. McCulloch stated that regarding the dropping off of people on Central Avenue, he would be very much opposed to that type of situation. Traffic was bad enough coming out of Heather Place and because of the grade, they had to be very careful in making a left hand .turn. If people are pulling ,�, off, �r if there is a special drop-off lane, that would just be another car to look for. He would encourage the developers and the City to do what- ever they could to discourage any access to the facility from Central Avenue. Mr. Scott Kohanek, 6116 Central Ave.,asked if there would be generators on the roof. Mr. Kimball stated they will have all rooftop mechanical units. Any noise from these units would be minor. This building was different from an office building. In this building they are dealing with atmospheres that are com- pletely different--locker rooms, running track, fitne�s rooms, pool, etc., so the only way to make it work was to have a small unit for each atmosphere. With an office building, there is one atmosphere throughout the whole building. He stated he thought the largest �onnage unit they have at the Eden Prairie club was 10 tons of air conditioning. Mr. Kohanek stated he did not see a time when the traffic.on Central Avenue was going to be minimized in any way, and he would also discourage any kind of walkway, pathway, or any access from Central Avenue. He stated the . traffic was hazardous enough along Central Avenue. Councilperson Schneider asked if any projections had been made on traffic on Rice Creek Road and Mississippi St. east of Old Central. Mr. Robinson stated there were no pr.ojections for those areas--just the 3,600 cars per day west of Central Avenue in a 1984 traffic count. He would � guess those projectfons would be less than that east of Central; however, they could run some projections. The primary concern was the distribution of traffic after the development, �� � PLANNIIdG COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 13 Mr. Richard Mochinski stated he.owned the vacant land on the northeast corner of Rice Creek Road and Old Central. From what he has seen regarding this proposal, he thought it v�uld be a first-class development and would be a fine asset to the City of Fridley. He thought the area needed something like this. Ms. Kathleen McCulloch project. They thnught Ci ty of Fri dl ey. stated she and her husband were in favor of the it was a good project and would certainly enhance the MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECOIVDED BY MR. SABA� TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTIIVG AYE, CHAIRPERSOAI BILLINGS DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARIIVG CLOSED AT 9:10 P.M. MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, 5ECONDED BY MR. BARNA, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF PRELIMIIVARY PLAT, P.S. #87-06, SHOREWOOD PLAZA, BY 5T. ANTHONY VILLAGE SHOPPIlVG CEIVTER, INC., GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST MOORE Z�AKE DRIVE, EAST OF HIGHWAY 65, NORTH OF MDORE LAKE AND WE5T OF CENTRAL AVENUE, WITH THE 5TIPULATION5 AS OUTLINED ON PAGES 4-5-6 OF THE5E MEETING MINUTE5 WITH THE CHANGE IN STIPULATION C-7 TO READ: "ALL UTILITY CONNECTIONS TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS TO BE UNDERGROUND." UPO1V A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLING5 DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNAIVIMOU5LY. 2. PUBLIC HEARING:_ CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SP #87-13, BY Per Section 205.24.4, B, 2, of the Fridley City Code to allow the grading and construction of a parking lot in the CRP-1 Floodway, generally located south of West Moore Lake Drive, east of Highway 65, north of Moore Lake and west of Central Avenue, (A map ctescr°ibing the area was on file with the City Clerk and was available to the public and was furnished at the Planning Commission meeting). MOTION BY MR. SABA, SECONDED BY MS. SHEREK, TO WAIVE THE FORMAL READING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE ARTD OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. UPON A�VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING.AYE., CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE PUBLIC Fi�'ARI�G`OPEIV AT 9:12 P.M. Mr. Robinson stated th�s special use permit was for the construction of a parking lot facility in what was designated on the zoning map as a flood plain. In researching the designation, it.was discovered that the original application of this flood plain was based on some obsolete topography. In 19II1 the State had issued a Surface Water Mlanagement Act which required the municipalities to institute a regulation protecting flood plain areas. At that time, Staff used a_1955 topographical survey to determine that an extensive area of the proposed project site was in the flood plain. Based upon a current survey by the developer, it was apparent the City was erroneous at that time and that, in fact, a very small area close to the PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 14 �1 lake was still in the flood plain. The rest of the area had been filled prior to the enactment of the Surface Water Management Act. �r. Ro�inson stated he has talked to John Stein at the DNR who said this happens time to time when cities use a� approxi�ation method as was done in Fridley, and that it could simply be amended administratively. The Rice Creek Watershed District was aware of this contradiction and will be review- ing that along with the starm drainage plan. Based on the Rice Creek Water- shed District's concurrence, they can simply remove the flood plain designa- tion. In the meantime, there was a little bit of uncertainty as to how to handle this, so they were processing a spec�al use permit with a stipulation that the special use permit be subje�t to Rice Creek Watershed Dis trict and Ci ty appr.o�al of the storr�r ctrai nage pl an. MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. BARNA, TD CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARIIVG. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE� CHAIRPERSON BILLING5 DECLARED THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED AT 9:15 P.M. MOTIDN BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MS. SIiE.REK, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUPICIL APPROVAY, OF 5PECIAL U5E PERMIT, 5P #87-13, BY BRODY AS50CIATES, INC., PER ,S`ECTION 205.24.4, B, 2, OF THE FRIDLEY CITY CODE TO ALLOW THE GRADIPIG AND CONSTRUCTIOP7 OF A PARKING LOT IN THE CRP-1 FLOODWAY, GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST MOORE L1�ICE DRIVE, EAST OF HIGHWAY 65, NORTH OF MOORE LAKE AND WEST OF CENTRAL AVENUE, WITH THE 5TIPULATION THAT THE SPE�AL USE PERMIT BE SUBJECT TO RICE CREEK WATER.SHED DI5TRICT AIVD CITY APPROVAL OF THE STORM DRAINAGE PLAN. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 3. E�Pd�IQEI�TION OF A VACATIOIU, SAV #87-05, BY BRODY ASSOCIATES, IPdC.: o vacate a t at par of ot , u itor s Su ivision o. 88, eing that part of the Southwest Quarter of Section 13, T-30, R-24, Anoka County, Minnesota, described as follows: Beginning at a point in the Southwesterly line of Lot 1, Block 2, P�oore Lake Highlands 3rd Addition, distant 30.0 feet Northwesterly of the Southeast corner of said Lot 1, thence Southeasterly to said Southeast corner; thence South to a point in the South line of the South- west Quarter of said Section 13, distant 625.0 feet West of the South quarter corner of said Section; thence West along the South line thereof a distance of 250.0 feet; thence North at right angles to the last described line a distance of 100.0 feet; thence East and parallel to said South line a distance of 150.0 feet, more or- less, to the point of beginning, generally located south of West Moore Lake Drive, east of Highway 65, north of Moore Lake and west of Central Avenue. Mr. Robinson stated the City has f_ee simpY��ti�le to approxima�ely 1.7 acres that runs through the middle of the site. This property was strictly for drainage purposes only, and they have no other rights to the property. Because of that, the City was proposing to vacate that property to allow the devel�pment; and �"� he would recommend approval of the vacation with the stipulation that the approval and transfer of City held drainage property be subject to compliance with all stipulations of Plat, P.S. #87-06. PLANNING COMMISSION �EETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 15 � MOTIOIV BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECOMMEIVD TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF VACATION, SAV #87-05, BY BRODY ASSOCIATES, INC., WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE APPROVAL OF THE VACATION AND TRAN5FER OF CITY-HELD DRAINAGE PROPERTY BE SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH ALL STIPULATIONS OF PLAT, P.S. #87-06. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 4. CONSIDERATION OF ADOPTION OF THE__MOORE LAKE COMMONS DEVELOPMENT PLANS UNDER Mr. Robinson stated that besides the C-3 zoning, there was also 3.8 acres adjacent to Central Avenue that was zoned PUD. This was'rezonet���n t966 wit� the idea of building a shopping center. A plan was never really submitted for the development, and the ordinance that was in place at that time has changed. The ordinance which was originally enacted was that the development would have to be started vr�thin one year or the Planning Commission could make some determination to recommend to City Council to revert the zoning to what i� was before. That was never accomplished. Today's ordinance would,say that the property would revert to the prior zoning if nothing happened within 3� years. However, it was the City Attorney's opinfion that this would be a retroactive application of today's cade, so he did not feel that would be appropriate. So, Staff was recommending that the master plan that was being recommended at this r��eting be recommended to City Council for approval as part of the PUD zoning. Mr. Saba stated he would al�most rather clean up the zoning in another way rather than leave this small portion as a PUD zone. A PUD zone normally was a whole-deve]opment complex, not just one-small portion of a development. Mr. Robinson stated by recommending this master plan be established as part of the PUD, they were, in effect, saying that the whole development was part of the PUD and that it locked.the.plan into place. So, if the developers wanted to change their minds and build sfl�nething else, they would have to come back to the Planning Commiss�on and City Council because of the PUD status. Mr. Billings stated his understanding of what Mr. Saba was say�ng was that this was sort of a"back-door" approach and what they should really be doing is coming in for a zoning change and doing it th� right way. Mr. Robinson stated the problem with zoning changes was that zoning ci�anges were kind of controversial in nature, and they also take a great deal of time. Basically, if the Commission liked the development and felt the City had enough safeguards in place, the PUD was just an abstract overlay over the map and really did not mean anything. Mr. Saba stated he understood that. He liked the development, but he just �"`� did not want to see them making some of the same mistakes they have made in the past with zoning. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 16 �''1 Ms. Sherek stated that in light of the project they were looking at, she felt they could go ahead and approve this, but she did agree with IMr. Saba that i� was kind of a"back-door" approach. She would like to direct City Staff to inform the Commission of the existence of any and all undeveloped PUD's in the City so the Planning Commission can review them and revoke them if necessary. Mr. Robir�son stated that in conjunction with changing the flood plain cl.ass- ification, they could process a zoning change. They would not have to rush into that but could do it as a housekeeping type of thing. MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECOIVDED BY MS. SHEREK, TO APPROVE THE ADOPTION OF THE MOORE LAKE COMMONS DEVELOPMENT PLANS UNDER PUD STATUS BY NORTHWEST RACQUET, SWIM, AND HEALTH CLUB5 AND BRODY ASSOCIATE5, .Z'NC. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLII�TGS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY. 5. CONSIDERATION OF A LOT SPLIT, L.S. #87-D5, BY THE FRIDLEY HRA: To sp it off part of ot , B oc , ar view anor Section ddition, and part of Lot 6, Block l, Parkview Manor Second Addition, generally located south of Central Avenue and north of Hackmann Avenue. �..�,, Mr. Robinson stated about..l-%�yea�s ago, �h� .Fr-i�lley i-�R� �cc�uire�=,some land for roadway purposes and then removed a house. At this time, the roadway improvement will create a problem for an individual whose driveway opens right at the �ew corner. The City wil�l- purchase a small portion of property from the lot=to the south to place the drive on Hackm�n- Avenue. In addition, the lot split also s.plits off som� unneede�i roadway improvement property. Ms. Sherek stated she did not think the Planning Comm�ssion should approve a lot split until the final roadway design was approved. It just did not make any sense at this point in time. What happened if in the future, the City needed five more feet of property and then they have to pay this individual for it after giving him the property now? Mr. Robinson stated the road design really could not be done until these things are cleaned up. He recommended the Planning Commission approve it with the stipulation that the final details of the road design be fully understood before the lot split is recorded. Mr. Billings stated he had the sas�e concern as Ms, Sherek, from the stand- point that the City Council has not approved the roadway design. If the Planning Commission does recommend approval of this lot split, they should add a stipulation that the final design of the roadway be approved by the City Council prior to this lot split going to City Council for approval. MOTI0111 BY MS. SHEREK, SECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF LOT SPLIT, L.S. #87-05, BY THE FRIDLEY HRA, WITH THE STIPULATION ��` THAT THE FINAL DESIGN OF TK� RDADWAY BE APPROVED BY THE C�TY COUNCIL PRIOR TO THEIR FINAL APPROVAL OF THE LOT SPLIT. � , ; PLANNItdG COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 17 Mr. Barna stated part of the concern of the City Council has been that everyone along Central Avenue is going to have problems with their driveways with the roadway improvement. This lot split was solving one person's driveway problem, but now was everyone else going to ask the City to buy property to solve their driveway problems? UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLING5 DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 6. CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE M-1 AND M-2 INDUSTRIAL SECTIONS OF THE S: Mr. Robinson stated the City was having a lot of problems with mixed use development. They have recently had requests for a restaurant in the East River Road Business Center and a softball hitting operation at Winfield,and Harri� developme�is (both office/wareh'ouse projects). . Both of the requests are commercial-type businesses. From a pr-aczical standpoin�, there was no reason why a restaurant cauldn't be allowed in the East River Road Business Center; however, the M-2 Industria] code doesn't allow it. Mr. Robinson stated also included in the agenda was a memo from Linda Fisher of the Larken, Hoffman, Daly � Lundgren Law Frim, the law firm representing the East River Road Business Center. It was their idea to look at how other cities handled th�se types of situations. It did seem to be allowed for in the various zoning codes, either with a special use permit or outright such � a restaurant in an industrial center. Mr. Robinson stated.he would like some direction from the Planning Commission as to whethEr the City should be pursuing this. If so, Staff would bring back a proposed ordinance change to the second meeting in July. Mr. Barna stated he would have no objection to that. Ms. Sherek stated she liked the idea of allowing services that support the business/office/industrial park only. She stated Edina does it that way. Mr. Robinson stated it would then become a matter of defining those support services in the code. Mr. Billings stated Mr..�i.c�.Harris has been before the Planning Commission, Appeals Commission, and City Council expressing the same concern and that was: Was the City being overly generous with special use permits to the point where they have gone beyond the zoning of a particular area? Maybe the City should �e taking a more serious look at the uses in industrial/commercial zoning and see if any ma,jor changes are in order, rather than just several small changes. Mr. Saba stated what he heard Mr. Billings saying was that if they say some support services are permitted with a special use permit, were they then �`'� creating loopholes in special cases? Maybe they should change the zoning code to eliminate the need for a special use permit for certain types of services. � PLANNIfJG COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 18 Mr. Robinson stated he thought the zoning code was working well except in the case of a mixed use development. Mr. Saba stated maybe the City needed a separate zoning for business development centers or mixed use development centers. Ms. Sherek stated.she was sure the City of Roseville had a separate zoning class for mixed use business development centers. She asked Staff to check with the-Gity of Roseville to see if, in fact, they do have ordinances and zoning that covers that. If they do, then the Planning Commission should look at them. Mr. Kondrick stated he definitely felt the Commission needed more information before proceeding any further. MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK� SECONDED BY MR. SAVANDA, TO CONTINUE DI5CUSSION ON 2'HIS ITEM-UNTIL THE �EXT MEETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL,VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Mr. Robinson stated he would bring back more information to the next meeting and maybe some models on how this section of the code could be changed. �'' 7. RECEIVE MAY 7, 1987, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. 5HEREK, SECONDED BY N�2. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE MAY 7, 1987, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAI.RPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 8. RECEIVE MAY 14, 1987, HOUSING & REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. KONDI�:ICK, SECONDED BY MR. SVANDA, TO RECEIVE THE MAY I4, Z987, HOUSING � REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY MINUTE5. UPO1V A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER50N BILLING5 DECL�IRED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 9. RECEIVE MAY 26, 1987, ENERGY COP�MISSSON MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. SABA, 5ECONDED BY MR. KONDRICK, TO RECEIVE THE MAY 26, 1987, ENERGY COMMISSION MINUTE5. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLIfl1GS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. /'""`� PL�NNING COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 19 �, 10. RECEIUE JUNE 9, 1987, APPEALS COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MR. BARNA� SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECEIVE JUNE 9� 1987, APPEALS COMMI5SION MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLIIVGS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOU5LY. 11. RECEIVE MAY 28, 1987, SPECIAL HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: MOZ'ION BY�IS. 5i3EREK� SECDNDED BY MR.. SV�d7DA.,_-TO RECEITT�.THE_.1KAY 28� 1987, SP CE IAL FIUMAN RESOURCES COMMI5SION MINUTES. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAI.RPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. 12. RECEIVE JUNE 8, 1987, HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES: MOTION BY MS. SHEREK, SECOIVDED BY MR. SABA, TO RECEIVE THE JUNE 8, 1987� HUMAN RESOURCES COMMISSION MINUTES. UPOlU A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSOIV BILLINGS DECLARED TNE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. Ms. Sherek stated that on page 6 of the minutes was the Commission's recommendations for the 1987-88 CDBG funding. MOTIOIV BY MS. SHEREK, SECONDED BY MR. SABA, TO CONCUR WITH THE HUMAN RESOURCE5 COMMISSION AND RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATION OF THE 1987-88 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO THE REgUESTING ORGANIZAT.ZOIVS AS FOLLOWS: ALEXANDRA HOUSE, INC. ANOKA COUNTY COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM F'RIDLE.Y_ SEA120R CEIVTER, INC. NORTH 5UBURBAIV CENTER FOR THE ARTS SOUTHERN ANOKA COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE CHURCH OF ST. WILLIAM A5SOClATIO1V FOR RETARDED CITIZENS CENTRAL CENTER FOR FAMILY RESOURCES NORTH SUBURBAN COUNSELING CENTER FAMILY LIFE MENTAL HEALTH CENTER NORTH SUBURBAN CONSUMER ADVOCATES FOR THE HANDICAPPED HOT MEALS FOR SHUT—INS, INC. RECOMMENDED $ 3,000 6 ,915 3,000 I,200 5,000 Z,000 Z,500 5,000 3,169.50 3,169.50 �i REQUESTED $3,000 6,9Z5 6,000 2,500 5,000 2,500 3,150 5,000 5,000 5,000 2,500 1,000 UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPERSON BILLINGS DECLARED THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMDUSLY. � PLANNItdG COMMISSION MEETING, JUNE 24, 1987 PAGE 20 ADJOURNMENT: MOTION BY MR. KONDRICK, SECONDED BY MR. SVi�VDA��Tp ADJOURPI THE MEETING. UPON A VOICE VOTE, ALL VOTING AYE, CHAIRPER50N BILLINGS DECLARED THE JUNE 24, I987� PLANNING COMMI55ION MEETING ADJOURNED AT 10:I5 P.M. 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