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03/10/1969 - 00019648-� �+_� THE MINUTES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WORKSHOP MEETING OF MARCH 10, 1969 � Mayor Kirkham called the 5pecial Public Hearing and Workshop Meeting to order at 7 35 P.M. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Mayor Kirkham requested the audience to stand and �oin the Council in saying the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. ROLL CALL- MEMBERS PRESENT: Harris, Samuelson, Sheridan, Kiskham, and Liebl MEMBERS ABSENT: None ADOPTION OF AGENDA Mayor Kirkham said that there was one addition under Old Business. #5A• Resolution Requesting the Minnesota Highway Department's Participation in Revamping of the Crossover at 69th Avenue on T.H. #47. MOTION by Councilmam Liebl to table the Bob Schroer Ordinance, and Consideration � of Bob Schroer building permits until a Regular Council Meeting as this Meeting is supposed to be for Public Hearings and Workshop, and an Ordinance should be taken up at a Regular Council Meeting. He said that at this time, until certain conditions are met, he would be unable to vote properly. Mayor Kirkham called for a second. He got none, therefore he declared Council- man Liebl's Motion DIED for lack of a second. MOTION by Councilman Samuelson to adopt the Agenda as amended. Seconded by Councilman Sheridan. Upon a voice vote, Harris, Samuelson, Kirkham and Sheridan voting aye, Liebl voting nay, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. PUBLIC HEARING ON REZONING REQUEST (ZOA #68-11) FROM R-1 TO R-3A BY LOUIS MOM- CHILOVICH: Councilman Sheridan pointed out that this is not the original request, but an additional request brought about by the Council's desire to allow for a 30 foot dedication of road. He said that Mr. Momchilovich has a contract for deed for the additional land. He is asking for this additional rezoning to keep the same number of units in the apartment he is planning. The City Engineer added that the Council has already passed the Ordinance for the main parcel. Mr. Momchilovich then came forward to the Council table and presented his plans. � The City Engineer said that the Council has authorized a permit, but it was help up until the second rezoning request could be processed. Councilman Liebl asked why the permit was held up in this case. The City Engineer re- plied that it was held up at the direction of the Council. MOTION by Councilman Harris to close the Public Hearing for the Rezoning Request (ZOA #65-11) by Louis Momchilovich. Seconded by Councilman Samuelson. Upon a il �^ -i� I'. '� ! SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF MARCH 10, 1969 PAGE 2 � voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unani- mously. It was agreed that the Ordinance for the Rezoning Request by Louis Momchilo- vich should be on the Agenda for first reading at the March 17, 1969 Meeting. PUBLIC HEARING ON THE REZONING REQUEST (ZOA #68-13) FROM R-1 TO R-3A BY HAM- MERLUND ENTERPRISES, INC. Mayor Kirkham read the Public Hearing Notice, and asked if there was anyone present who wished to be heard. Mr. Clarence Nordstrom came forward with the plans and said that he represented Hammerlund Enterprises, Inc. He said that he has appeared before the Planning Commission on four different occasions and now it is in order to present these plans to the Council. He said that this area is 29 2/3 acres and lies directly south of Onans. He showed the original plan and pointed out what the Planning Commission suggested changing. He then showed the revised plan which incorporated the recommendations of the Planning Co;nmission of the selling of the remainder of the total parcel south of the north 813 feet to the City of Fridley for the sum of $1.00, and the easement for access to the creek and the slope easement. He said that he has agreed that he could live with the new plan which is for 312 units. He said that the Planning Commission felt that the parking should not be around the outside of the conplex and he has been working with the Engineer on this. He saa.d that he is providing a garage for every unrt and complying with the City Code in � also providing one parking space for every unit for visitors. He said that they could not get away from some parking around the edge, but that some has been moved to the center of the complex. Councilman Harris said in regard to the garages to the west, if they could not be moved east rather than to the west. Mr. Norclstrom asked if he thought there would be much traffic on the easement. Councilman Harris asked if 108 garages would not mean 108 entrances. Mr. Nosdstrom said no, that the garages are back to back. The City Engineer said that he is requesting approval sub7ect to dedication of property to the City for $1.00, providing the necessary easements, and with the understanding that the action is on the rezoning request, not on the plans He asked Mr. Nordstrom how he figured the land area. Mr. Nordstrom said that the land area requirements for 312 units was figured on the revised plan, not the original. He added that it will be 2� stories, with balconies, and patios at garden level. He commented that the amenities must be provided as the people are demanding the extras. He said that his plans also include a swimming pool, sauna baths, garbage disposal etc. Councilman Liebl asked where ingress and egress are. Mr. Nordstrom showed him on the plan, and said that it would be off of 69th Avenue as no one knew when Stinson Boulevard would be put in. Councilman Samuelson asked if the City has the right of way for Stinson Boulevard. The City Engineer said not to his know- ledge, but pointed out that Hammerlund Enterprises, Inc. will be dedicata.ng 33 � feet along Stinson Boulevard. Mr. Nordstrom said that they would be willing to make this dedication as they would still meet the land requirements. Councilman 5heridan asked why the map in the Agenda indicated that they are requesting zoning to Planned Development. Mr. Nordstrom answered that at first they contemplated requesting this zoning, but through studies, they found that it would not be feasible, and switched the request to R-3A. -� � � « SPECIAL PUBLIC I3EARING NIEETING OF MARCH 10, 1969 PAGE 3 Mayor Kirkham told Mr. Nordstrom that, as he knows, if the rezoning request � is approved, he must still comply with the City's Ordinances. Councilman Samuelson commented that the location is ideal. Mayor Kirkham called for comments from the audience before the Public Hearing is closed. There was no reply. MOTION by Councilman Liebl to close the Public fIearing on the Rezoning Request (ZOA #68-13) requested by Hammerlund Enterprises, Inc. to change zoning from R-1 to R-3A. Seconded by Councilman Samuelson. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously. ORDINANCE #412 - AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CITY CODE OF THE CITY OF FRIDLEY MINNESOTA BY MAKING A CHANGE IN ZONING DISTRICTS: (Bob Schroer - Produce Ranch at 7620 University Avenue N.E.) Councilman Harris asked to be brought up to date in regard to St. Paul Water- works easement that was needed for the direct line-up of theroad to the south of Osborne Road. Councilman Samuelson said that permission has been received from St. Paul Waterworks so the road can be aligned with the south service road. The City Engineer added that the agreement has 7ust been received, and will be considered at next Monday's Meeting. It will entail removal of the hill at a cost of about $1300 which will be borne by the developer. He said that if Council adopts this Ordinance, he would suggest that it be made sub- �ect to the dedications discussed. The City Engineer, while showing the plans, � said that the St. Pau1 Waterworks vent will be removed. He explained that originally the plans showed five entrances, but they have been cut down to two. Councilman Sheridan asked the distance from the north to the south boundaries. The City Engineer said that it was 430 feet north of Section line 2. Council- man Sheridan said that if approved tonight, it would be on that part that Mr. Schroer has plans for. Councilman Samuelson said that the two sites that have plans to be submitted tonight, takes up approximately 400 of the total land area. The City Engineer pointed out that there wi11 be a Public Hearing for the Service Drive soon and that it will have to meet all City standards and will have to have concrete curb and gutter. Councilman Samuelson asked where the storm sewer coming from Spring Lake Park is in relation to this property. The City Engineer said that it will go through Mr. Schroer's property, but to the north of what is being proposed at this time. Councilman Harris asked if there would be an entrance at 78th Avenue. Councilman Samuelson said that the proposed loopback is at 79th Avenue. Councilman Liebl asked for an executive recess at 8•15 P M. The Council then ad7ourned to the Conference room until 8:37 P.M. MOTION by Councilman Harris to adopt Ordinance #412, waive reading, and order � publication. Seconded by Councilman Sheridan. Upon a roll call vote, Sheridan, Liebl, Kirkham, Harris voting aye, Samuelson abstaining, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. - ��, �� (� �, : SPECIAL PIISLIC HEARING MEETING OF MARCH 10, 1969 PAG� 4 � CONSIDERATION OF BUILDING PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT EXTERIOR DISPLAY AREA OF BOB'S PRODUCE RANCH AND CONSIDERATION OF BUILDING PERMIT TO CON5TRUCT THE MAIN BUILDING IN BOB'S PRODUCE RANCH: Councilman Samuelson said that this will be coming in as a proposed plat. Councilmam Liebl asked to look at the plans of the display area. The City Engineer showed the building elevations and said that the display area would be columns, with a roof, and the sides will be open. He then showed the garden center and said that this will be in con7unction with the display area. Councilman Harris said that he hoped that there were no plans to close the building temporarily in the winter. Councilman Samuelson said no, it will not be. Mayor Kirkham asked what was on the second story. The City Engineer said that this is on the ranch portion and wi11 face University Avenue N.E. The second story will be office space. He said that there was a 30' sanitary sewer easement between the two Uuildings. MOTION by Councilman Harrls to grant the building permits to Bob Schroer for construction of display area and construction of the main building of Bob's Produce Ranch, sub�ect to conditions imposed by the Building Standards - Design Control Subcomnuttee and getting the necessary dedications. Seconded by Councilman Sheridan. Upon a voice vote, Sheridan, Kirkham, Liebl, Harris voting aye, Samuelson abstaining, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried. Mr. Peter La.ndberg, representing Mr. Bob Schroer, said Thank You to the Council � for granting approval of their requests. HIGHLAND PARK DEVELOPMENT COMPANY - REQUIREMENT FOR PLAT TO BE SUBMITTED PRIOR TD ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMIT: The City Engineer said that this is the area behind the clinic. He said that the applicant came in for a building permit for the apartment complex, but the Council had stated that issuance of the permit would be sub�ect to getting a recorded plat. Mr. Fred Donaldson, representing Highland Park Development Company, said that they would like to start one apartment house now and one in a couple of months. The City Engineer suggested that the Councll could approve one permit, so he could get started on the construction, and while he is doing this, he could also be working on getting the plat recorded. Mr. Donaldson agreed, that he would like to get started and said that all the work to get a plat recorded takes some time. The City Engineer said that they are proposing three apart- ment buildings but are planning construction on only two at this time. He pointed out that there is a parcel of commercial land included in this pro- posed plat which is about 1 acre for which the developers have no plans at this time. Councilman Liebl asked if the sewer facilities are adequate. The Crty Engineer said yes, that there was a sewer line in both Lyric Lane and Madison Avenue. Councilman Sheridan commented that there are goa.ng to be some odd shaped lots. ' He asked how far along with the proposed plat Mr. Donaldson is. Mr. Donaldson said that he had �ust met with the Plats and Subdivisions - Streets and Utilities Subcommittee. Councilman Sheridan said that he did not think that it would take the estimated 60 to 90 days to get a plat recorded. Mr. Donaldson replied that there are formalities at the City level, that Suburban Engineering had indica- ted that there would be a delay in survey work, and after these things are done, { �,�� SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF MARCH 10, 1969 PAGE 5 the plat has to go to Anoka County for their approval. The City Engineer said that legally they can get a building permit for one building, which has been approved by the Council. Mr. Donaldson said that they are ready to start on the apartments, but the nursing home is still 3 or 4 months away. Councilman Sheridan asked how many owners are involved. Mr. Donaldson replied fa.ve or six. Councilman Harris said that he wondered if the road should not be dedicated. Mayor Kirkham said that then the City would have to maintain it. If left as a driveway, the owners will have to maintain it. Councilman Sheridan commented that if the Council was to instruct the Adminis- tration to issue one building permit, then the Development Company could proceed with construction, then wnile they are working on the plat, the Council could grant additional permits as required. The City Engineer said that he would suggest that the Certificate of Occupancy be held up until the plat is recorded at Anoka County. Councilman Sheridan felt that this was a good idea. MOTION by Councilman Sheridan to grant a building permit for proposed Lot #3 of the proposed plat Maple Manor Addition, and that the Certificate of Occupancy be held up until the plat is recorded with Anoka County. Seconded by Council- man Harris. Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously. RESOLUTION #39-1969 - RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE MINNESOTA HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT'S PARTICIPATION IN REVAMPING OF THE CROSSOVER AT 69TH AVENUE ON T.H. #47; MOTION by Councilman Harris to adopt Resolution #39-1969. Seconded by Council- man Samuelson. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Sheridan said that he wondered if an informal Public Hearing should not be held to inform the residents of the area of what is being contemplated. Councilman Samuelson suggested that the City Manager could send out a cover letter with a map to explain the improvement. It was agreed by the Council that this should be done. LICENSES: MOTION by Councilman Liebl to approve the following licenses: General Contractor Approved By Palmer House Builders 7117 West Shore Drive Edina, Minnesota Masonry G7erstad Masonry 6331 Brooklyn Drive Minneapolis, Minnesota By: Sohn H. Palmer NEW By: Luverne RENEWAL G7erstad Building Inspector Building Inspector THE MOTION was seconded by Councilman Samuelson. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously. � r ' �7 �� ; � _,.1 SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF MARCH 1D, 1969 PAGE 6 � RECEIVING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES AND CHAIRP9AN ERICKSON'S SUMMARY OF FEBRUARY 27, 1969: MOTION by Councilman Harris to receive the Minutes of the Planning Commission Meeting o£ February 27, 1969. Seconded by Councilman Sheridan. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Sheridan said that the only acta.on necessary was to set the Public Hearing date for the Pemtom Rezoning Request. The City Enqineer agreed and suggested that it be held April 14th. MOTION b�� Councilman 5heridan to set the Public Hearing for Pemtom, Inc. (ZOA #69-01), a request to rezone from R-1 to PU, for April 14, 1969. Se- conded by Councilman Harris. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Sheridan said in regard to this item that he would like the Adminis- tration to compile all the pertinent data and supply the Council with copies for study. REPORT ON WATER, SEWER AND DRAINAGE INSTALLATION IN DNAWAY A➢DITION: (Sanitaxy Sewer, Water and Storm Sewer Pro7ect #88, Addendums #2 and #3) The City Engineer said that there are more and more requests for building � permits in the Onaway Addition. He pointed out that the Fire Department did show their concern for the buildings on �he east side of the tracks as they have no wates for fise protection. He reminded the Council that the Public Hearing was held for water and sewer in the area and it was ordered in, but his Depart- ment was instructed to hold up construction plans until the storm sewer prob- lem was resolved. He said that we have tried to meet with Spring Lake Park and the Highway Department, but without success. He said that he felt that it will be a lengthy process to get the cost participation by Spring Lake Park and the Highway Department, and the question he has, is does the Council want to delay further, and hope fox rapid cost participation, or proceed wrth the needed water and sewer improvement. He pointed out that the water and sewer lines would run north and south and the storm sewer would run east and west. He said that he would like a Council determination also on which of the three plans for storm sewer they wish to pursue, as some of the minor work could be done now. Councilman Harris asked if the water was the primary concern now. The City Engineer said that D.W. Harstad have requested both water and sewer. He saa.d that the proposed water line would go on 79th Avenue Councilman Harris said that as there is no water on the east side of the tracks, he suggested gettinq together with Bob Schroer to put in water at 78th Avenue. The City Engineer pointed out that there would be no circulation of water, and that the hook-up should be on East River Road and also on University Avenue to provide cir- culation of water. , Counca.lman Samuelson said that he felt that the City does have to put in the water and sewer at this time. Requiring the builders to put in we11s and cesspools is an unnecessary expense and the City must provide these people with services. The City Engineer then suggested that if the City wants to go ahead with the water and sewer, that another informal Public Hearing be held to inform the people of what will be done. � ,�_ � -�� SPECIAL PUSLIC HEARING MEETING OF MARCH 10, 1969 PAGE 7 Councilman Samuelson asked if any action has been taken for negotiations with ' the railroads for �acking the water under the tracks. The City Engineer said that he felt that some action regarding Spring Lake Park and the Highway Department should come first. He did not feel that the railroad companies would balk at the City's plans. Councilman Samuelson said that he felt that the improvement under the railroad tracks at least, should have the maximum storm sewer system, so that the preparations would be made £or going all the way for a full conduit system, if that is to be done in the future, Councilman Sheridan said that the Council has to choose one plan, so that the other bodies can be approached with definite costs. He said that he has tried to get their participation by other means rather than court, but he has been unsuccessful a1so, and he said that he is now ready to authorize court action against Sprzng Lake Park and the Highway Department. MOTION by Cauncilman Sheridan to authorize the Legal Department to proceed with the necessary cost participation court action against Spring Lake Park and the Minnesota Highway Department for the storm sewer system. The motion was seconded and upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Liebl said that before this is done the Council must choose which plan to adopt. Councilman Harris said that based on his discussions with the Fridley Industrial Development Commission, this is the next area to develop, and the water and sewer and storm sewer improvements will accelerate this ' growth very rapidly The City Engineer said that P1an �#1 is for a complete conduit system from University Avenue to East River Road under the railroad tracks and the cost is about $380,000. Plan #2 is for a conduit system on the west side off East River Road and use the ditch on the east side of Onaway Addition and would cost about $272,000. Plan #3 is the cheapest and would be �ust to improve the ditch and line the creek, and improve the culvert under the railroad tracks, etc. and would cost about $51,000. Councilman Sheridan said that Plan #3 would be like thxowing money away, because if and when Plan #1 or #2 were to be adopted, the improvements made could not be incorporated. Councilman Saznuelson commented that this is going to be a high investment area. Councilman Sheridan asked if there would be another storm sewer district north of this. The City Engineer said yes, that this one goes to about 81st Avenue. Councilman Samuelson asked under Plan #1, how much it would cost per 100 square fe�et. Mr. Comstock said that using the best method possible to ascertain the cost to the City, it would be about $1.80 per 100 square feet. He said that this represented $175,000 of the total pro�ect, or the City of Fridley's share. He said that there are about 220 acres in the City of Fridley affected, or 9,280,000 square feet. Councilman Samuelson said that there is a proposed zoning change on 79th Way and East River Road and they are going to request keeping the ditch open. He s�id that some work must be done along the creek also, and that has to be part ' of the consideration. The City Engineer pointed out that the area from the railroad tracks to �ast River Road is open anyhow, so that could wait. He said that he would work with the developers of the land at 79th Way and East River Road, � SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF MARCH 10, 1969 PAGE 8 � MOTION by Councilman Harris to adopt and develop storm sewer Plan #1 for this area. Seconded by Councilman Samuelson. IIpon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Samuelson asked if the $1.80 per 100 square feet would compare favorably with other storm sewer distriats. The City EngLneer said that Ln another storm sewer district Zt is $1.94 per 100 square feet. He said that 60o participation by other bodies is needed and could upset the proposed cost per 100 square feet, depending on how the court case goes. Mr. Comstock said that he also felt that cost participation would not be ob- tained short of court action. He said that he agreed that water and sewer services should be provided as soon as possible. He pointed out that another Public Hearinq for the storm sewer will have to be held, as it has been over six months since the last one. He said that ihe Council still will not be able to give the people concrete costs because of the court action. He said that he felt that the question at this time is, should the Engineering Depart- ment go ahead with the water and sewer for Onaway Addition. The Assistant City Attorney said that in court it will have to be shown where the water comes from. The City Engineer said that the Engineering Department has the plans now. He said that there is no question where the water comes £rom, as there is a big culvert which dumps water into Fridley from Spring Lake Park. � MOTION by Councilman Samuelson to authorize proceeding with the water and sewer improvements in Onaway A3dition, and hold an informal Public Hearing to advise the people that the Council is proceeding with the plans. Seconded by Council- man Sheridan. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared thF motion carried unanimously. Mr, Richard Harris said that he was not opposed to the water and sewer going in, but he was opposed to the plans as were presented previously. He said that he wanted to make sure that they will be adequate for the future. The City Engineer said that any property owner could come into his office to discuss the lines and if they wished them to be bigger, they could be incxeased, as it is the property owner who has to pay for them. CONSIDERATION OF COMMUNICATION AND RESOLUTION FROM ANOKA COUNTY A5SOCIATION OF MUNICIPALITIES REGARDING METROPOLITAN AIRPORT: Mayor Kirkham said that the resolution in the Agenda is one of the proposals that will be presented at the Anoka Association of Municipalities. He said that at the last Meeting they requested that evesyone study the proposal and act according to their oo�n feelings. They also requested that this resolution be taken up with all the councils. In the meantime, there have been a couple of similar resolutions prepared. He said that a letter had been written by the Air Line Pilots Association to Mr Hetland of the Metropolitan Council, da�ed March 4, 1969 which endorses the Ham Lake site. I-Ie then read the letter ' aloud, which was signed by Robert N. Rockwell, Jr., Minneapolis Area Safety Representative. MOTION by Councilman Samuelson to receive the letter from the Air Line Pilots Association dated March 4, 1969. Seconded by Councilman Sheridan. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carxied unanim- ously. �_;`;f5 SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MES�TING OF MARCH 10, 1969 PAGE 9 Mayor Kirkham said that he did not know if the resolution that appears in the � Agenda will be the one that will be used. Mr. Lloyd Feakes, 6845 Washington Street N.E. was present at the Meeting and said that he had been working with A.N.S.R. and he hoped that the Council and Mayor Kirkham have looked at both sides of the study. He said that he was surprised that the Air Line Pilots Association has endorsed this site. He said that everyone talks about meeting the criteria, but the criteria has never been set down, and he did not know what this criteria is. He pointed out that there were many considerations, some of which were, will this lower the water table in Carlos Avery, what about the duck hatching, and what wzll be done about the noise problem. He said that the noise is a definite problem at Wold Chamberlain, and would be a problem at Ham Lake also in the future. He said which experts do you believe, the Conservation Department says that this air- port will destroy Carlos Avery, the Metropolitan Airport Commission is saying that it will not. He said that he would like to see the airport go in north of the Twin Cities, but not at the Ham Lake site. He felt that 45,000 acres would be the minimlun amount of land the site would need, and he felt that the Metropolitan Airport Commission should have to purchase that much, then they would be able to control the zoning of the areas closest to the runways. This then could be leased back, for uses such as light industry or farming. He said that he thought that many geople felt that if they oppose the Ham Lake site, that the airport would be put in further south of Wold Chamberlain. He said that there is an alternative site, that would be about 1D miles further north than the Ham Lake site, and rt would have available about 60,000 acres. , When this proposal was presented to the M.A.C. they said that it was too far north and that was the end of it. He asked that our local councils truly represent the people, and stated that there are many bodies not in favor of the Ham Lake site, one of which is the Conservation Department. He said that he felt that the Ham Lake site is not adequate and would strongly urge the Council to support a northern site, but not Ham Lake. He said that by the time the Ham Lake site is completed, it will be inadequate, and that it must be at .Ieast 45,000 acres. Councilman Samuelson then read the letter aloud from the Anoka County Assoc- iation of Municipalities. Mayor Kirkham said that the Anoka County Assoc- iation of Municipalities did pass a resolution in favor of a northern site several months ago. Since then, the P1.A.C. has come out in favor of the Ham Lake site. Since they did make their choice, it was felt the Association should back them. However, it �s st.tll hoped that the site can be moved further north. Mr. Peakes asked if he still felt that the airport could be located at the best site, and other than Ham Lake. Mayor Kirkham said that we all have selfish motives, and do not have the facilities for study that the M,A.C. does. They have been provided with time, money, and facilities to hire experts to study this and could have no selfish motives. Mr. Feakes said that a year ago Mayor Kirkham went on record as favoring the Ham Lake s�.te. Mayor Kirkham said yes, but his involvement did not stop there, he has continued working and learning. Mr. Feakes asked Mayor Kirkham wnen he spoke of exPerts, if he did not consider the Conservation Department experts. Mayor Kirkham replied that the fact that one person chooses one position and another , person another, does not make either position wrong. Mr. Robert Astrup, 6640 McKinley Street N.E , said that he would like to speak in opposition to the Ham Lake site. He pointed out many of the same argue- ments used by Mr. Feakes. He said that by 1980 the Ham Lake airport wi11 be in the middle of a city. He said that he was very concerned about the noise abatement, and that the Carlos Avery Game Farm is very necessary to save, �1 �� _ + e�' SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF MARCfi 10, 1969 PAGE 10 � He said that he too would be upset if his representatives went on record as favoring Ham Lake, but that he did favor a northern site. He said that he was surpra.sed that the Jaycees went on record as unanimously in favor of the Ham Lake site. He saicl that people have a tendency to say "That's progress" but that is not the way it has to be. He said that the Council has quite a determination tu make, and he hoped that they would make their decision very carefully. The Assistant City Attorney said that he was taking no sides, but did want to point out that the M.A.C. does now have the power to zone outside of the Ham Lake airport boundaries. He said that he has been advised that the Coon Creek Watershed has been given a grant for $600,000 and their plans coincide with the drainage plans of the M.A.C. They will be starting sometime this spring. The total cost of the drainage plan is about $1,000,000. He said that their plans are now before the Metzopolitan Council fox their study. Councilmsn Liebl said that he would like to comment. He said that the recent decision of the M.A_C_ to accept the Ham Lake site as the only suital�le site for an airport in the northern area has brought this issue into sharp focus. He said that he £elt that the M.A.C. did not duly consider answering all the questions presented by A.N.S.R., the Ham Lake Aizport Committee or Northwest Airlines, and many Conservation officials. He said that it seemed to him that they took the most convenient site to expedite the problem. He said � that it would behoove us to get everything in the n ght perspective. He said that we must be sure tha�. regional considerations are given to the eoology of the area. He said that there must be complete and valid comparisons, and scientific studies. He felt that what this Council needs is foresight Minnesota deserves something better that the inadequate site that the M.A.C. proposes. He said that he has a strong belief that there is no man alive who can say that conservation is not his business. He questioned what right we have to pursue a proposal which would destroy conservational resourses. We have an obligation to conserve our soil and water for future generations. He said that he must criticize the Mayor with a heavy heart for his using his position as Mayor and in£erring that he was an expert, without knowing what it is all about. He said that he believed that the Mayor was a dedicated Mayor, but as the Mayor of a City, he must be dedicated to wise management of the total environment. He said that he felt that this Council is not ready to go on record in favor of any airport site, without first having important questions answered by the M.A.C. He stated that he must oppose this resolution, Uut does not oppose a site for an airport located north of the Twin Ca.ties. Mayor Kirkham said in reply to Councilman Liebl's charge that he has never set himself up as an expert and that he has said all along that he is �ust an amateur attempting to learn the facts. COMM[7NICATIONS A. D W. HARSTAD CO.� INC.: REQUESTING WATER AND SEWER IN ONAWAY ADDITION � MOTION by Councilman Harris to receive the communication from D.W. Harstad dated March 3, 1969 and request the Administration to send him a letter informing him of the action taken by the Council tonight. Seconded by Councilman Samuelson. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanamously. �_��a1 SPECIAL PUBLIC HEARING MEETING OF MARCH 10, 1969 PAGE 11 B ANOKA COUNTY: COURT SPACE RENTAL AGREEMENT ' MOTION by Councilman Samuelson to receive the communioation from the County of Anoka dated February 27, I969. Seconded by Councilman LiebL Upon a voice vote, a11 voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously. C. FRIDLEY LION5 CLUB: REQUESTING RECONSIDERATION OF SECTION OF SIGN ORDINANCE MOTION by Councilman Liebl to receive the communication £rom the Fridley Lions Club,dated February 27, 1969. Seconded by Counci7man Sheridan. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously. D. SENATOR GREIG: BILL RELATING TO THE FIREMEN'S RELIEF ASSOCIATION IN THE CITY OF FRIDLEY MOTION by Councilman Harris to receive the communication from Senator Greig dated March 5, 1969 and also a memorandum from Robert Aldrich, Presi.dent of the Firemen's Relief Association dated March 10, 1969. Seconded by Councilman Samuelson. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanunously. E. FRIDLEY JAYCEES: REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF ANNUAL JAYCEE CARNIVAL MOTION by Councilman Harris to receive the communication from the Jaycees dated � March 5, 1969 and grant approval. Seconded by Councilman Samuelson. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham deolared the motion carried unani- mously. REZONING CONCEPT FOR THE HYDE PARK AREA. Councilman Sheridan said that he would like to add this item if it was agree- able with the rest of the Council. There was no ob�ection. MOTION by Councilman Sheridan to set a Public Hearing date of April 14, 1969 for consideration of zoning concepts for the Hyde Park area, and that this Public Heara.ng be held in con�unction with the Planning Commission, therefore, he would request that this Public Hearing be scheduled first so as not to keep the Planning Commission Members longer than necessary. Seconded by Councilman Harris. Upon a voice vote, a�l voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Harris said in that case, he would suggest that the other Hearing notices read for 8:30 or 9:00 P.M. 1965 CITY EARNINGS ON INVESTMENTS: Mayor Kirkham said that he would like to extend the Council's compliments to the Finance Director for his wise handling of temporarily idle funds in invest- ments to allow for earnings for 1968 totaling $220,399.02. ' ADJOURNMENT. MOTION by Councilman Liebl to ad�ourn the Dleeting. Seconded by Councilman Samuel- son. Upon a voice vote, all voting aye, Mayor Kirkham declared the Special Public Hearing Meeting of March 10, 1969 ad�ourned at 10:20 P.M� tC�.�t �� �'��r/�'L ��� Re�s,pectfully submitted, 'i Jack O. Kirkham G„'yf/.-�✓ %i ���'.xt/ Mayor Jue1 Mercer, Secretary to the City Council